It's the Brian Lair show on WNYC.

Good morning again, everyone.

I'm Bridget Bergen, senior reporter in the WNYC and Gothamist Newsroom sitting in for Brian today.

We had a discussion on the show the other day

about why ICE agents are allowed to be masked.

By covering their faces, they can shield their identities

from civilians when they act outside the bounds of the law.

But on the other side of this conversation

about whether these agents should have a right to privacy

is the question of whether civilians are entitled

to privacy. According to a new zine from the tech outlet 404 media, the answer is, not really.

The Trump administration has been moving swiftly to empower ICE's growing surveillance apparatus,

enlisting the help of private tech companies together an enormous amount of data on private

civilians, immigrants, and non-immigrants alike. ICE has access to databases where they can

filter for personal information that they've gathered like the appearance of scars and tattoos,

license plate numbers, and resident status. Trump also signed an executive order allowing agencies to share the

data that's ordinarily kept within one agency. That's a pretty significant change with some

sweeping implications, particularly for people who are paying taxes and sending their kids to public

schools under the promise that the information would be siloed.

Joining us now to discuss his recent investigations into ICE's use of surveillance technology is Jason Kebler, a co-founder of 404 Media. Jason, welcome to WNYC.

Hey, thank you so much for having me.

So, Jason, the news outlet you co-founded where you published this

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