A few weeks ago, the pandemic changed everything for pretty much all of us and reshaped the investment

landscape in the process. Overnight, the startup game flipped from growth at all costs to keep only the essentials. It's now a game of survival. So we were

concerned about all the past founders who've been on the show and we wanted to see how they were doing. After asking around,

one person immediately grabbed our attention, Debbie Wei Mullen. Debbie pitched her Vietnamese

coffee startup, Copper Cow, to our investors a few years back,

but it's what she did in early March of this year before COVID-19 went from an epidemic to a full-out pandemic that really struck us.

Her business is completely dependent on retail and hospitality.

Two sectors that have taken such a huge hit.

It's hard to imagine how this business can survive.

But she's found a way.

And to understand how Debbie is surviving now,

you have to understand how her company was thriving before all of this.

So I'm going to play you some of her original pitch and then we'll talk to Debbie about this year.

From Gimlet, this is the pitch. I'm Josh Muccio. Our investors today?

Alexandra Stanton.

Alexandra is CEO of Empire Global Ventures. And on the side, she likes to make strategic bets

on startups she thinks will strike gold.

Phil Nadell.

As a serial entrepreneur, Phil built companies

that sold for hundreds of millions of dollars.

Now he manages one of the largest syndicates on Angel list.

Charles Hudson.

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