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Afford Anything | Make Smart Money Choices

How I Retired at Age 32 - with Liz Thames from Frugalwoods

Afford Anything | Make Smart Money Choices

Paula Pant | Cumulus Podcast Network

Entrepreneurship, Investing, Business

4.73.6K Ratings

🗓️ 19 March 2018

⏱️ 61 minutes

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Summary

#121: After Liz Thames graduated from college, she couldn't find a job. "Nowhere would hire me," Thames says. "I had what I thought was this nice resume, and I sent out over 50 applications. Nowhere called me back." She took a temporary job at a document-scanning agency, then joined Americorps to serve as a full-time volunteer in a low-income neighborhood in Brooklyn. She lived on a stipend of $10,000 annually, plus food stamps and a transit pass. She saved $2,000 from her $10,000 stipend, while paying rent in New York. To say that Thames is a natural saver is an understatement. Her frugality stayed intact throughout her twenties. She got married, earned a free masters degree and advanced into higher-paying roles. But she and her husband, who was equally frugal, continued saving as much as possible -- at times pushing their savings rate to as high as 70 percent of their income. When they were 30, they decided to shoot for financial independence. They shared a dream of moving to a rural farm, where they could raise children and spend everyday outdoors. By age 32, they achieved financial independence. Their investment portfolio is robust enough that they could draw down, in perpetuity, for the rest of their lives. They rented out their home in Cambridge, quit their office jobs, and moved to a 66-acre farm in Vermont. These days, they live on a combination of their rental income and 'side hustle' income from their blog, Frugalwoods. They have two children. Today, Liz joins me on the Afford Anything podcast to share the story of how she and her husband achieved financial independence by age 32. Resources Mentioned: Book: Meet the Frugalwoods Website: Frugalwoods.com   For more information, visit the show notes at http://affordanything.com/episode121 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

You can afford anything but not everything.

0:10.9

Every decision that you make is a trade-off against something else and that is true, not

0:14.5

just for your money, but also your time, your focus, your energy, your tension, anything

0:20.2

in your life that is a scarce or limited resource.

0:23.2

And so the questions become twofold.

0:25.4

Number one, what's most important to you?

0:28.2

Number two, how do you align those values with your day-to-day behaviors?

0:34.1

Answering these two questions is a lifetime practice and that is what this podcast is

0:38.1

here to explore.

0:39.3

My name is Paula Pant, I'm the host of the Afford Anything Podcast and today we have Liz

0:43.9

from Frugal Woods joining us.

0:46.1

Liz writes a popular blog that many of you are familiar with.

0:49.5

She and her husband reached financial independence when they were in their early 30s.

0:53.1

I believe they were 32 when they reached the point at which the investments in their

0:57.6

portfolio were sufficient enough such that they could draw down from those investments

1:04.1

and live on those for the rest of their life.

1:06.9

Now they don't have to do this because they have income from a rental property, they

1:10.3

have side hustle income from their blog, they've got other sources of income but they know

1:14.8

that they can live on their investment portfolio and they'll be okay.

1:19.8

So once they had that realization, they both quit their jobs, they were living in Cambridge,

1:23.2

they moved out to Vermont, they live on 66 acres.

1:27.2

They've just welcomed their second child into the world so congratulations.

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