Man, I was so self-abusive.

I was fucking brutal being in my head.

I was emotionally shut down, doing whatever was not the acceptable thing.

I ripped that open when I said, okay, I don't have to be who I think I am.

Sitting quietly, watching the voice in my head and learning how to react

differently to it, not believe it, not buy into it.

How does one simply from the meditation cushion be like, I'm getting an adventure capital?

You can evolve consciousness and make money at the same time.

The root of the problem that I wanted to work on was helping people understand themselves, to love themselves.

Welcome to the art of accomplishment where we explore living the life you want with enjoyment and ease.

Today we're doing a little bit different of an episode. I'm just going to have a fireside chat with Joe,

and we're just going to learn more about him and get really personal with it. So I hope you enjoy this episode.

So Joe, there's a whole bunch of personal questions. I've been wanting to ask you, and I'm sure a lot of other people are curious too. And I just love to do an episode where I just ask you questions about you. Okay. Cool. That sounds like I'm scared.

Excellent. Great. Great. So just to start with, I'm curious, you know, you often contrast your upbringing with kind of where you are now.

And where you are now is you're clearly on some sort of path.

You are very intentional about your self-development.

And at some point in the past, you presumably weren't.

And I'm curious, like, what was that point of transition to

where you recognized, oh, I'm on a path? Yeah, wow, that's a good question. And I actually, it doesn't

resonate with me that I'm currently on a path, which is interesting. So there was this, the unconscious

part, right, where I was, where I was just

living. I didn't particularly know there was a voice in my head. I was interested in things like

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