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The Daily Beast Podcast

How I Know Trump's at His Most Dangerous: Wolff

The Daily Beast Podcast

The Daily Beast

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4.6 • 8.4K Ratings

🗓️ 29 May 2026

⏱️ 59 minutes

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Summary

Michael Wolff and Joanna Coles trace the panic, paranoia, and raw volatility swirling around Donald Trump as he insists he “doesn’t care” about the midterms while privately sounding trapped, furious, and increasingly dangerous. From comparisons to Stalin’s inner circle and the cult-like loyalty inside Trump’s cabinet, to the political gamble of backing scandal-plagued Ken Paxton in Texas, the episode dives deep into a presidency that appears to be running on grievance, chaos, and reality-show instincts. They unpack Trump’s escalating obsession with E. Jean Carroll as the Justice Department targets her after she beat him twice in court, explore how Iran may be outmaneuvering him in the Strait of Hormuz crisis, and examine why Trump’s promise to avoid endless wars is collapsing in real time. Plus, Michael reveals another surreal chapter from his Jeffrey Epstein encounters involving Bill Gates, billionaire fantasies, and the strange power games unfolding inside Epstein’s Manhattan mansion. Visit https://ffrf.us/TRUMP or text TRUMP to 511511 to learn more and join. #ad Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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He recognizes that his back is to the wall, that he's in a corner that he can't get out of.

0:47.3

When he's in this mood, he is at his most dangerous and most audacious.

0:59.2

So the I Don't Care I'm Above at All guy is really down in the mud thinking of some slur or libel to save himself

1:03.8

or some new enemy to elevate an attack

1:07.0

and some emergency to declare.

1:09.8

I mean, he is, I mean, this is, this could be a, a very messy moment or an ugly Trump moment

1:18.4

at this point, that he's going to blame us for demanding that he cared.

1:27.8

Michael. Michael.

1:29.5

Joanna.

1:31.2

So let me just say top of the hour here that I was out last night at dinner with the

1:37.1

whole family.

1:38.5

And somebody came, came a member of the public, came, sat at the table to say how much he liked the podcast.

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Well, actually, he didn't say how much he liked the podcast.

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