How I Healed An "Incurable" Disease Through Faith and Food (Brett Ender + Harry Gray)

Wellness + Wisdom Podcast

Josh Trent

Education, Self-improvement

4.8 • 913 Ratings

🗓️ 30 September 2025

⏱️ 69 minutes

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Summary

Are you following a blueprint for health that's actually making you sick?

Josh Trent welcomes Brett Ender and Harry Gray, Founders of Noble Protein and The Meat Mafia Podcast, to the Wellness + Wisdom Podcast, episode 773, to share how Brett healed from an "incurable" disease through carnivore nutrition, faith, and surrender to God, why gut health, organ meats, and spiritual alignment create a new blueprint for vitality, and how the path to freedom only comes when anger is transformed into purpose.

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In This Episode, Brett Ender + Harry Gray Uncover:

[01:05] A New Way of Living

How getting sick allowed Brett to make different choices.
Why he felt different energy when he started a carnivore diet.
How we can't out-workout a bad diet.
Why he first wanted to go back to the same lifestyle that got him sick.

Resources:

[03:00] The Journey to Freedom + Incuring an Incurable Disease

Why it's become more difficult to know who to take health advice from.
What people seek from the Meat Mafia Podcast.
Why carnivore diet is just a tool.
How Brett healed his body and found God.
Why doctors told him the disease was incurable.
How he finally realized what got him sick.
Why carnivore diet helped Brett heal.

Resources:

Dr. Shawn Baker

[10:20] Humans Are Designed to Worship

How humans are designed to worship God.
Why different world religions believe in the Genesis story.
How religious stories expand our mind and beliefs.
Why science is proving that God exists.

Resources:

Inner Excellence by Jim Murphy

[14:05] God Will Give You a Sign

Why Harry believed God brought him and Brett together.
How they decided to figure out a way to start a passion project.
Why the physical stimuli are always shallow.
What makes us chase the wrong things.

[19:20] God Has Your Back

Why Brett is proud of his fear instead of being scared of what others will think.
How God is working on each of our worries.
Why the worst thing that ever happened to him became the catalyst for growth.

[21:45] Energy Is Felt

How people don't buy just a product, but what the brand stands for.
Why the market lacks honesty.
How God only hears "yes."
Why listening to our intuition implies taking risk.
How fasting helps Harry to have heightened awareness.

Resources:

722 Alex Wolfe | Amanita Muscaria's Hidden Healing Codes: Can This Ancient Mushroom Abolish Big Pharma? Legal Microdosing For A Mental Health Revolution

[30:00] Eat Smarter

The importance of disconnecting and going for a walk to be more creative.
Why God blessed us with powerful instincts.
How unhealthy foods limit our capacity for intuition.

Resources:

Eat Smarter by Shawn Stevenson

[33:45] How Gut Health Influences Gut Feeling

Why an unhealthy gut means our gut feeling is not working well.
How Noble protein powder helps repair the gut.
Why whey protein is a waste product of cheese and what protein to use instead.
What causes bloating when we consume whey protein.
The difference between beef protein and whey protein.
Why protein powder is not an essential supplement.
How Brett makes a 50g protein coffee.

[43:40] Organ Meat for Gut Repair

Why most people have gut dysbiosis.
How organs help us repair the gut.
Why the US diet is much more unhealthy than in other countries.
How they've been hiding the research about bovine liver proving to support human liver health.
Why nature provides the most perfect food for us.

[47:05] From Anger to Purpose

How Brett and Harry first tried to fight the norm.
Why their goal is to get people in the new game instead of fighting what's not working.
The importance of feeling our anger.
How they transitioned from anger to purpose as a fuel for what they do.

[50:30] The Journey to Freedom and Truth

Why anger is not contributing to anyone's mission in life.
How Brett achieved autonomy over his life.
Why the work helped him find mental freedom.
Why Brett struggles with being judgmental.
What makes people judge each other.

Resources:

[01:01:20] "So What?"

How a ketamine journey helped Josh be less judgmental.
Why Brett's self-worth is tied to his professional success.
How they wanted to create a product that makes people healthier.

Resources:

071 Food Freedom Forever With Melissa Hartwig

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Power Quotes From Brett Ender + Harry Gray

"I cured a disease by eating all the foods I was told not to eat. Because even when I was facing death, I still wasn't self self-aware enough to realize that the shit that I was doing was what got me sick. That journey was also the gateway that led me to God and it ended up being the biggest catalyst of all time." — Brett Ender

"Faith is spelled R-I-S-K. If you want to feel a gut feeling, you actually have to go take a risk and be willing to see the downside of your decision."" — Harry Gray

"You can't tap into your gut instinct if you have an inflamed gut. Think about all the inner work that your body is trying to do just to repair the inflammation that you've created as a result of your poor decisions." — Brett Ender

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About Brett Ender + Harry Gray

Harry Gray and Brett Ender are the cohosts of The Meat Mafia Podcast and cofounders of Noble Origins, a grass-fed protein company.

Together, they explore the intersection of food, faith, and freedom, challenging mainstream narratives around health while sharing their own journeys of healing and entrepreneurship.

From Harry's deep dives into frameworks for faithful living to Brett's powerful story of overcoming ulcerative colitis through nutrient-dense eating, their mission is to help others reclaim strength, sovereignty, and simplicity in modern life.

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0:00.0	I cured a disease by eating all the foods I was told not to eat. That journey was actually the gateway that led me to God and to find Christ. Even when I was sick and facing death, I still wasn't self-aware enough to realize that the shit that I was doing was what got me sick and in the hospital. And so what they tell you is that it's an incurable disease. They actually told you that there's nothing they can do for you.
0:21.2	That's what they tell you. You're going to have the disease for the rest of your life.
0:25.1	Brett Ender and Harry Gray are the hosts of the Meat Mafia podcast and founders of Noble Origins Protein.
0:32.1	What do you make about the connection between gut health and gut feeling? I don't think you
0:36.6	could tap into your gut instinct if you have an inflamed gut. Because think about all the inner work that your body is trying to do just to repair the inflammation that you've created as a result of your decisions. It would essentially be like going through life with a parking break on. 80% of people have exposure to glyphosate. Your gut is one cell membrane thick. Yeah. So if you have any exposure
0:54.8	of glyphosate, it's going through your gut. What is the pain that you think your age bracket
0:59.6	is really drowning from when it comes to health? When we're faced with our own death,
1:10.1	like you were, you have to become the signal above the noise
1:14.4	there's no other way otherwise you die yes how did you become that signal above your noise to actually live
1:20.8	even when i was sick in facing death i still wasn't self-aware enough to realize that the shit that I was doing
1:29.9	was what got me sick and in the hospital. That came two years later. Wow. Yes. I was in the hospital
1:35.7	bed watching like YouTube food videos because I'm like, dude, I just want to go back and like,
1:40.5	eat a cheeseburger and get french fries and drink a beer and go back to college and
1:44.5	just start banging chicks again like that was literally what my mindset was at the time in the hospital
1:48.9	bed yes there was just so much self-worth attached to that stuff and it was doing starting to do the
1:55.4	right things gradually that led to that night in 2018 which was about two years after I got sick, there was finally
2:04.2	this moment of clarity of there could be some genetic predisposition, but brother, it really is
2:10.5	the accumulation of the poor decisions that you made led to get you into this spot where your
2:16.2	life is now affected.
2:21.5	But how amazing of a story would it be if you write it all those decisions and actually became your version of the person that you look up to on all these podcasts?
2:26.1	Like how much pride would you actually have for yourself?
2:28.8	You know, how would you be able to help people if you could actually put this thing into remission
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