All right, everybody. Welcome back to another edition of the untitled jeff buck podcast i'm your host

jeff buck today it's a how i got here version of the podcast with two indycar drivers we have

zach vich and dalton kellett they are both from and dreddy autosport zach vich is, of course, in the Verizon IndyCar series, while Dalton is in Indy Lights.

But they both happened to be in Portland, Oregon recently, and IndyCar reached out and said,

Hey, you want to meet up?

So I said, yeah, sure.

So we all met up at a stump town coffee shop in downtown Portland.

And I thought it would be kind of cool to do a little bit of a different how I got here this week.

And so this was right after the news had come out where IndyCar's ladder system was potentially going to have a change.

And that is that Mazda, which has been sponsoring the ladder system was potentially going to have a change, and that is that Mazda, which has been

sponsoring the ladder system, is not returning next year. So there's some doubt as to how the

lower series would go, whether they would just be able to get a new structure. Mazda had put up

some scholarship money for the Indy Lights champion, things like that.

So that's obviously an important part of their system. I wanted to ask them both how they got to

where they are and then ask them what they thought the future of the latter system would be.

So a little bit of a different format. Bear with me. And here is my conversation with

Zach Feach and Dalton Kellett. All right, everybody. I'm here with Zach Veach and Dalton Kellett.

And we're going to do like a sort of a double how I got here today. And we'll just jump right into it.

First of all, how are you, Zach? I'm doing great. This is my first time

ever visiting Portland, and I'm already in love with the city, so I'm really happy to be here.

That's awesome. Yeah, we are sitting in a stump town right now. Yeah, you've got the Beatles playing.

Yeah, this place is perfect. It's a tourist hotspot. Yeah, it's looking good. We've got some little kids looking at us they're like wow microphones see what must be important yeah no dalton how are you doing very well doing well loving loving the city loving the area so

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