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Hey, welcome to How I Built This Resilience Edition. I'm Guy Ross.

So as some of you know, we started a new series of online conversations, where each week I'm talking to founders and entrepreneurs about how they're building resilience into their businesses right now.

And in case you miss them when they happen live, we are posting excerpts right here in your podcast feed.

And today, we're going to bring you two conversations. Later in the show, you'll hear from Steve Holmes, the co-founder of Spring-Free Trampoline, about the surge in demand for backyard trampolines and the long waiting list to get one.

But first, to Stewart Butterfield, the co-founder of Slack and Flickr. Before the pandemic, Slack was a pretty widely used office messaging platform.

But in a single week, starting March 10th, Slack onboarded more than 2 million new users.

Among those working remotely are Stewart's 2100 employees who work in offices in 10 countries around the world.

I spoke with Stewart from his home in the Bay Area where he's been wondering, what is the future of work and Slack look like?

Thank you for being here. How are you doing, by the way?

I'm doing okay. I mean, I feel grateful that we have a backyard given that we have two little dogs.

That's something. On the other hand, we have 2100 employees around the world. In a distribution of how people are doing right now.

Some people are okay. Many people are stressed and anxious.

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