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Hello everyone and welcome to how I built this resilience edition from NPR.

I'm Guy Ross.

Each week, on Thursdays, we invite entrepreneurs and other business leaders to come out of the show live

to talk about how they've been building resilience into their businesses this year.

And today, my conversation with Lindsay Peoples Wagner, the Editor-in-Chief at the Cut.

The Cut's a digital publication that covers fashion, beauty, politics, and much more.

And before she went to the Cut, Lindsay was the Editor-in-Chief at Teen Vogue.

Teen Vogue is actually where Lindsay started her professional career in fashion.

It's an intern cleaning out the fashion closet.

Now, if you've ever seen the Devil Wears Prada, it is a massive room filled with designer shoes,

gowns, hats, scarves, bags, and accessories.

My points of reference for fashion were, you know, I worked at Payless Growing Up.

Like, I wasn't like, I really knew anything from fashion.

I liked being creative, but it honestly wasn't until college that one of my professors actually took me aside and said, you know,

I think maybe you want to try it at magazine.

You really like to read.

You really like to write, like, you want to be creative.

Maybe this is the outlet for you.

And so she had actually sent me a listing for a Teen Vogue internship that was literally just schlepping,

cleaning the closet, the fashion closet, I think glamorous.

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