Okay, here we got. Stand by. Three, two, one.

The thinking atheist, it's not a person. It's a symbol. An idea.

The population of atheists in this country is going through the room.

Rejecting faith. Pursuing knowledge. Challenging the sacred.

If I tell the truth, it's because I tell the truth.

Not because I put my hand on a book and made a wish.

And working together for a more rational world.

Take the risk of thinking for yourself.

Much more happiness, truth, beauty, and wisdom will come to you that way.

Assume nothing.

Question everything. and start thinking.

This is the Thinking Atheist podcast, hosted by Seth Andrews.

You know how I will often say that this conversation started on video and it's on YouTube, but the audio should be plenty for my podcast listeners.

Well, this is one of those rare occasions where I'm going to say the audio is fantastic.

So enjoy while you're driving around or whatever, but find a window of time where you can go back,

click the YouTube link in the description box, and watch the video because, holy cow, we do a ton of visuals elaborating on what my guest is referring to this is

one of the longer shows i have ever released it pushes an hour and 50 minutes almost two hours long

but it hums right along this is fast fast, it's furious, it's compelling,

it's awesome, and I hope you learn as much listening and watching as I did hosting.

As a former creationist, and I was a Bible, believing Genesis, believing creationist,

and I was late to the evolution party.

I got there, but I was late to the party, you know, and realized I'm a higher primate

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