Hello, this is Emma Jones. Welcome to the podcast. Hollywood is in co-hoots with the Pentagon

and they see, okay, now you think, oh tinfoil hat time, Owen Jones is gone for Alex Jones.

Not so. Matthew Olford, who is an expert from the University of Bath, has done incredible

work which looks at how in exchange for support in films, Hollywood films essentially allow

the Pentagon and the CIA and the US defense department to rewrite scripts, ensuring in effect

that these films become part of the US war effort, the pro-war propaganda effort. Now,

this is really interesting stuff, I don't know, really fascinating and it goes to the

details of it, how far back it goes and some of your favourite films and TV shows get

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Jack, Matthew Olford, about Hollywood, the Pentagon, the CIA and the US State Department.

Very honour to be joined by Matthew Olford from the University of Bath, who is an expert

on all things to do with Hollywood and the relationship with the Pentagon and the CIA.

This is going to be fascinating, I think you're going to enjoy this everyone. So Matthew,

let's start with this, let's start with this. I mean, a lot of people just hear this

and think, oh, tinfoil, that's it, they're ready. You know, secret conspiracies, the US

government and Hollywood and propaganda. This is all just conspiratorial gibberish. What

would you say to that? Well, that's exactly what I thought for ages for many years at the

start of, I mean, I've been studying the relationship to be Hollywood and politics for

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