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How Heated Sidebars During the SBF Trial Could Impact the Jury’s Decision - Ep. 556

Unchained

Laura Shin

Tech News, Business News, News

4.61.3K Ratings

🗓️ 13 October 2023

⏱️ 44 minutes

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Summary

The second week of Sam Bankman-Fried’s criminal trial is underway, bringing emotional testimony from SBF’s ex-girlfriend and former Alameda CEO Caroline Ellison, along with some surprising stories about alleged bribes to Chinese officials and discussion about reaching out to the Saudi Crown Prince for help. Ari Redbord, Global Head of Policy at TRM Labs, discusses why the question of who was actually in charge is so critical to the case, the defense’s strategy to discredit Caroline Ellison, and why sidebars in the courtroom can get so heated.  Listen to the episode on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Overcast, Podcast Addict, Pocket Casts, Stitcher, Castbox, Google Podcasts, Amazon Music, or on your favorite podcast platform. Show highlights: Why Caroline Ellison is a critical witness on a "number of levels," according to Ari What a software developer at FTX revealed about whether SBF was directing trades Why a lawyer’s body language is something the jury looks out for  Why there have been so many sidebars in the trial and why they can sometimes get heated  The reason why the lawyers, particularly the defense team, have been so repetitive with their questions Considering the long prison sentence SBF is facing, why Ari "doesn't understand" SBF’s decision to push forward with the trial  Whether, after three days of testimonies, Ellison has come out as a credible witness for the jury Why the defense is facing an "uphill fight" and whether testimony from SBF would serve as a final Hail Mary for them Thank you to our sponsors! Crypto.com Hedera Popcorn Network Guest Ari Redbord, Global Head of Policy at TRM Labs. Previous appearances on Unchained:  Is TRM Labs Blocking Addresses From DeFi Protocols? Ari Redbord Says Yes The Legal and Regulatory Fallout From Terra’s Collapse: Who Will Pay? How Much Prison Time Is FTX’s Sam Bankman-Fried Facing? Links Previous coverage by Unchained on the trial of Sam Bankman-Fried: Sam Bankman-Fried Trial: Here's Everything That Happened So Far SBF Trial, Day 1: Possible Witnesses Include FTX Insiders, Big Names in Crypto, and SBF’s Family SBF Trial, Day 2: DOJ Says Sam Bankman-Fried ‘Lied’ While Defense Claims His Actions Were ‘Reasonable’ SBF Trial, Day 3: Why a True Believer in FTX Flipped Once He Learned One Fact SBF Trial, Day 4: SBF’s Lawyers Annoy Judge Kaplan, While Wang Reveals Alameda’s Special Privileges SBF Trial, Day 5: SBF's Defense Finally Found Its Legs, But Can It Counter Caroline Ellison? SBF Trial, Day 6: Caroline Ellison Recalls 'The Worst Week of My Life' SBF’s Lawyers Could Be Annoying the Judge. How Might That Impact the Trial? Did Sam Bankman-Fried Have Intent to Defraud FTX Investors? Here’s How Sam Bankman-Fried’s High-Stakes Trial Could Play Out SBF Trial: How Sam Bankman-Fried’s Lawyers Might Try and Win His Case The High-Stakes Trial of Sam Bankman-Fried Begins: What to Expect Go deeper into the trial:  In the SBF Case, Elite Corruption Is What’s Really on Trial Cooperating Witnesses in the SBF Trial May Get Little to No Prison Time Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

I sympathize with the defense here.

0:02.1

This is an uphill fight to begin with.

0:03.6

There are millions of pages of documents,

0:06.4

but really, I mean, you have three really strong

0:08.9

cooperators here who are in the inner circle,

0:11.4

who knew what we're going on day-to-day

0:12.9

and have been very, very credible.

0:14.9

So I think the battle here was very, very difficult

0:18.2

to begin with and it remains that way, still.

0:22.5

I think the battle here was very, very difficult to begin with.

0:24.8

And it remains that way, still.

0:25.6

Hi, everyone. Welcome to Unchained.

0:28.3

You're no hype resource for all things crypto.

0:30.5

I'm your host, Laura Shin.

0:32.4

Author of the Cryptopians.

0:34.2

I started covering crypto eight years ago

0:36.2

and as a senior editor at Forbes,

0:37.8

was the first mainstream media reporter

0:39.5

to cover cryptocurrency full-time.

0:41.4

This is the October 13th, 2023 episode of Unchained.

0:45.3

Thinking of launching your own stablecoin?

0:47.4

Start with the open source

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