Right now, they are paying nothing because we are still in private, sorry, public data.

Okay, so pretty revenue today.

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Hey folks, my guest today is a meet Chakmok. He is the founder and CEO of Altajic. He's an

ex-management consultant from McKinsey and company, and he also worked at Chicago and

in the Istanbul and Chicago offices.

Today he's building Altogic, which is a backend as a service platform.

Umet, you're ready to take us to the top?

Yeah, thanks a lot, little.

All right.

So what does that mean, back end as a service platform?

Backend as a service platform is meaning, I mean, if you think about the modern applications,

web applications or the mobile applications, basically there are two components.

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