Founders, what's going on? You guys know I love in-person events and they are back. The recording

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share intimate details, templates, KPIs, OKRs about their business and it was something special,

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So we're going to focus today, really based on Nathan's request, on kind of a journey.

And let me get the slide, figure this out real quick.

Here we go.

Kind of a three-part story.

From being an operator, building a company, becoming a leader in the space the space selling that company kind of transitioning to an advisor investor where i then invested through either directly

or through some venture groups in about 400 companies set on the boards of lots of companies

be honest got bored with that and wanted to move back into the operator space, kind of with the next journey,

which is a pretty typical story for a lot of founders that are probably in this room, that once you're an operator,

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