Young people today are growing up in a world very different from when their parents were in school.

Rapid cultural changes driven by new technologies, globalization, and shifting norms present new challenges to Christians

when it comes to how we seek to engage unbelievers in evangelism and apologetics.

In my conversation today, I'm speaking with Dr. David Dockery, someone who has spent decades

as a leader in higher ed, helping students think critically about Christianity, the Bible,

secularism, and what it really means to follow Christ today.

David currently serves as president of the International Alliance for Christian Education,

as well as president and distinguished professor of theology at Southwestern Baptist Theological Seminary.

He's also written or edited numerous books, including Confident Witness, Evangelism and Apologetics for the 21st century from Crossway. Let's get started.

Well, David, thank you so much for joining me today on the Crossway podcast. It's a joy to be with you,

Matt. Thank you so much for the invitation. So I think it goes without saying that we're living through a period of time

of really incredible cultural change that's related to our political division and situation,

global realities and instability around the world, economic challenges,

and then a whole slew of cultural ideas and norms and

sensibilities that have really changed a lot over the past couple of decades.

And all of that stuff is even heightened by the technology that we all have, even in our

pockets now, where it seems like change just comes faster and faster all the time. And I think all of

that change can sometimes make the task of evangelism and apologetics today feel even more

intimidating than maybe they already typically do and have in past generations, especially for

the average Christian who's trying to keep up. So I wanted to start

us off. Can you resonate with that sense of, wow, things are changing fast, and I don't always know

how to think about that. I think the 21st century has been characterized by rapid change. And I think

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