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All right, welcome back to Gun Talk. You know, it is 30 years, and you know, you've heard

this story before that this thing really got started, Gun Talk Radio, after a conversation at a cocktail party

with Alan got leave from the Second Amendment Foundation.

I thought, well, 30 years, we've got to bring Alan back in here.

Alan, you know, you are responsible for this, so I don't know whether to thank you or blame you.

Well, I hope you to thank me because I hope it's been a great right and a lot of fun for you,

Tom. On top of that, you know, the success you've had and the impact you've had on the, you know,

the gun fraternity, the gun rights movement, I really think you should pat yourself on the back.

So I hope you're happy about it. I am. It has been a great run.

It's been tons of fun. And to see what has happened over the 30 years has been amazing.

I mean, I try to explain to people, you know, 1995. We were coming off of the passage of the

Clinton gun ban, the so-called assault weapon ban. We were in the middle of that. It was not a good time.

And the other part of it is we didn't have really any kind of online presence. We didn't have

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