How Grateful Are We To Live Beyond The Gender Binary? with ALOK

Getting Curious with Jonathan Van Ness

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Science, Self-improvement, Comedy, Education, Society & Culture

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🗓️ 25 November 2020

⏱️ 51 minutes

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Summary

This week on Getting Curious, we’re re-releasing an episode from June 2019 that we hold dear, with the performance artist and writer ALOK. ALOK and Jonathan discuss their experiences embracing life beyond the gender binary, the historical precedents for gender fluidity, and the power of “emotional alchemy” in the face of discrimination. Follow ALOK on Instagram @alokvmenon, and make sure to check out their book Beyond The Gender Binary. You can keep up with all of their incredible work at www.alokvmenon.com. Once you’ve listened to the episode, head over to Jonathan’s Instagram @JVN for a July 2020 follow-up conversation with ALOK. Find out what today’s guest and former guests are up to by following us on Instagram and Twitter @CuriousWithJVN. Transcripts for each episode are available at JonathanVanNess.com. Check out Getting Curious merch at PodSwag.com. Listen to more music from Quiñ by heading over to TheQuinCat.com. Jonathan is on Instagram and Twitter @JVN and @Jonathan.Vanness on Facebook.

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0:00.0	Welcome to Getting Curious, I'm Jonathan Venes, and every week I sit down for a 40-minute
0:07.5	conversation with a brilliant expert to learn all about something that makes me curious.
0:13.0	This week, we're re-airing an episode from June 2019 with the incredible writer and
0:17.7	performance artist and someone who I'm honored to call a friend, Aloak, who I ask them,
0:23.3	how grateful are we to live beyond the gender binary.
0:30.8	Welcome to Getting Curious, I'm so excited to introduce our beautiful guest, Aloak, who
0:36.4	is a writer, performance artist, fashionista, extraordinaire.
0:40.8	So nice to have you here, welcome.
0:42.3	So happy to be here, thank you.
0:45.0	So I don't know if you heard this, did you know it's Pride Month?
0:48.7	I didn't know it.
0:49.7	I don't know if you heard anything about it, it's funny.
0:52.2	It's, you know, we're already like almost halfway through, unfortunately, but I just found
0:56.7	out I'm just kidding.
0:57.7	We love Pride Month.
0:58.7	I thought it was straight Pride Month.
1:00.3	No.
1:01.5	What is that with, we're going to have to hit that point later.
1:05.0	We'll get there, but you are a very, you are having, I mean, you've been working towards
1:12.8	creating your moment for a second, but I feel like you've been on my radar for a second,
1:17.8	which you're really coming into your own in public in a visible way that has just been
1:22.9	so beautiful and exciting to watch.
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