All right, everyone. As you can see, I'm not in the studio because I'm still at the Capitol here in Richmond. That's right. But we've got a great interview for you today. This is with Jason, Laura Lighten of the Free State podcast. And we talk about a lot of important issues. But one of the things we really nail down on is kind of being a parent in difficult times. And how do you raise your children and protect your children? Well, at the same time giving them the tools that they need

in order to adequately navigate this strange new world we find ourselves in.

So please check it out.

Let us know if you like it and definitely go over and check out Free State Podcast.

See you later.

Today we're thankful to be joined by Nick Freatus, old friend of ours, but we wanted

him to meet all of you because he's both a statesman and a father, has spent several years

thinking about economic issues at a higher level, and we wanted to get his insight into

the debate around the two-income trap.

And Laura's going to tell you a little bit more about what that is.

So Nick and I met when you and I were still living in Washington, D.C.

And he was going to run for Senate.

And you did run for Senate.

And I still want to call you

Senator.

Please don't.

But I remember I was thinking back before we recorded this podcast. I was thinking back to

the night that we lost, but I was such a mess and I came up to you and I was like crying and I was like,

I just want to say this one thing. I'm never going to work for anybody better than you ever.

And then you did. Like your next job was with Thomas Massey.

It was significantly better than I.

No, you were great. That was such a good learning experience.

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