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How giant pandas became China’s furry diplomats

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The Times

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🗓️ 20 July 2023

⏱️ 28 minutes

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Summary

The giant panda has become one of China’s diplomatic tools, after a pair were gifted to President Nixon as an act of friendship in the 1970s. But with US-China relations deteriorating - what can pandas tell us about the two superpowers’ modern relationship?

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Guest: Didi Tang, Beijing Correspondent, The Times.

Host: Manveen Rana. 

Clips: The National Archives, CNN, France 24, CCTV, NBC News, Richard Nixon Foundation, Action News 5, TikTok/@care2petitions, pandavoices.org.

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Transcript

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0:00.0

Picture this, static cars, idling engines, angry horns, now picture you, zooming past

0:12.4

it all, light and breezy, ah, the sweet feeling of whizzing past traffic.

0:21.0

Take your train journey via AvantiWestcoast.co.uk, AvantiWestcoast, feel good travel.

0:34.6

What you're about to hear is a telephone call, crackling through the mists of time, from

0:41.4

all the way back in 1972.

0:45.8

Did you get me, ah, Mr. Crosby noise, please, of the washing star?

0:52.8

Yes, sir.

0:54.8

Hello?

0:55.8

Mr. Crosby noise?

0:57.8

Oh, Mr. President.

0:58.8

Oh, yeah.

0:59.8

Fine, thank you, sir.

1:00.8

I don't have anything of shaking importance enough for your column, but I thought you'd be

1:04.8

interested in that.

1:05.8

When President Richard Nixon made this phone call to a journalist for the Washington

1:11.4

Star, he was on the first ever visit by an American president to the People's Republic

1:17.9

of China.

1:19.6

It was a trip of earth shaking importance, which shaped foreign policy and geopolitics

1:25.8

for decades to come.

1:28.3

And President Nixon knew just how to sell it to the American people.

1:34.4

To help usher in this new era of diplomacy, he relied on a pair of giant pandas.

1:41.4

That's the acquisition of the star that Mr. Nixon and I decided that the pandas should

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