How Germany’s Approach to Russia Backfired

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🗓️ 8 April 2022

⏱️ 31 minutes

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Thirty years ago, Germany put forth a theory for how to work with Russia. Major energy deals, leaders argued, would keep Russia from going to war with its neighbors. Over the past 20 years, Germany has made itself incredibly dependent on Russian gas. The war in Ukraine has complicated that relationship and has shown how Germany’s approach to Russia has not only failed, but also backfired. Guest: Katrin Bennhold, the Berlin bureau chief for The New York Times.

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0:43.4	30 years ago, Germany put forth a theory for how to work with Russia that was supposed
0:50.4	to keep Russia from going to war with its European neighbours.
0:55.4	Today.
0:56.9	The story of how that theory not only failed, but backfired on Germany.
1:04.2	I spoke with my colleague Berlin bureau chief, Katrin Benhol.
1:12.0	It's Friday, April 8th.
1:26.4	And over the past few days, as evidence has emerged of Russian atrocities in Ukraine,
1:33.2	the Western world has been looking for the next logical way to punish Russia.
1:38.6	Everybody keeps returning to the same place, which is shutting off the flow of energy
1:44.5	from Russia to Europe and to Germany specifically.
1:49.7	That's what we want to talk about with you.
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