How Gerald Ford’s Big Mouth Helped Uncover Insane CIA Abuses

The New Abnormal

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🗓️ 28 May 2023

⏱️ 36 minutes

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James Risen, author of The Last Honest Man: The CIA, the FBI, the Mafia, and the Kennedys―and One Senator’s Fight to Save Democracy, joins this episode of The New Abnormal politics podcast to talk about Senator Frank Church, who led what is known as the Church Committee, a group that held Senate hearings in order to hold the intelligence community accountable for its expansive abuses. He shares one particular story with co-host Andy Levy that explains how a few whip-smart journalists, and President Gerald Ford opening his big mouth, finally exposed the CIA and set the hearings against them in motion.

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0:01.1	Inspired, accelerated, overcome with the sheer emotion of using a paint with such a wonderful
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0:12.9	Heritage by Doelox.
0:13.9	It's a feeling.
0:15.9	Hi, I'm Andy Levy, former Fox News and CNN HLN Guy and current cable news conscientious
0:22.8	objector.
0:23.8	I'm a former libertarian who now sits pretty comfortably on the left.
0:26.9	Hi, I'm Danielle Moody, former educator and recovering lobbyist, but today I'm an
0:31.7	unapologetic woke commentator on America's threats to democracy.
0:36.0	And I'm producer Jesse Cannon and I'm here to make sure things don't go too far off the
0:39.6	rails.
0:40.6	We're here to have fun, smart conversations with some of the most knowledgeable and entertaining
0:44.6	people in politics, media and beyond.
0:47.2	Our goal is to try and make sense of our current crazy world, our new abnormal and hopefully
0:52.7	even make you laugh through the tears.
0:54.7	Hello and welcome to another Sunday bonus episode of the new abnormal.
0:57.8	We thank you so much for being here.
0:59.8	Today we have an extra special guest with legendary journalist James Risen of the intercept.
1:04.5	And today he's going to talk to us all about his new book, The Last Honest Man, The CIA,
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