Well, this is going to be one of the highlights that I know from this meeting, this podcast. I love that I said meeting. This feels more like a business meeting. That's why you guys are successful. I feel like I can rule the world. I know I could be what I want to. I put my all in it like no days off. Gary, let me ask you a hard-hitting question. I've known you now for a few years, a while now.

Do you own a computer?

You know what's funny?

I did not own a computer for four or five years going into COVID.

So what year did you buy your first laptop?

I went full phone because I didn't work within Excel or any documentation,

and it was all email meetings, social.

So I think I stopped having a laptop in 15, went to 19 without one, but I've had one since.

You know those luxury brands where it's like quiet wealth or whatever where there's no label? We found the podcast version of this, which is that the richest guys who come on the pod, they don't know how to use a computer. They're like, assistant sets up a screen. They just show up. We had one guy try to share his screen and he was like, honestly, he's like, honestly, guys, this is, this is bad.

I don't know what, I don't even know what I'm doing.

We go, just click in Chrome.

He goes, what's Chrome?

He didn't even know what Google Chrome was.

I don't think I have one of those.

It's ironic.

I would actually, you know, it's so crazy to think of evolution.

So I went through those four years, it was the best, like not having a laptop at the airport. Like, it was the best. And now it's completely the opposite, right? Like, my OpenClaw computer is like the most important thing in my life, right? It's just so fascinating. Wait, what are you doing with OpenClaw, Gary? I mean, lots of things. I think with OpenClawe specifically, I'm using it as a capture all for all information.

What's been really fascinating, even with three admins and chief of staff and all this,

I'm still like, I never got there, like some of my friends where their chief of staff is with them in every meeting.

So there'd be like so much context lost, right?

Like in a meeting, so much opportunity missed.

So one of the first things I've done with OpenClaw is it might even happen here.

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