Welcome to Annie and Ari on three.

Happy Thursday.

We've got a special show for you today.

An incredible conversation with Joel Clatt of Fox Sports.

Maybe he should be Commissioner College Football.

He did an episode of his own podcast on Monday where he imagined himself to be the commissioner of college football.

Talked a lot about some of the changes he would make if he were in charge.

Some of them I agree with.

Some of them I disagree with.

Some of them already disagrees with.

But we had a really fascinating

conversation about those. Plus, great conversation about the national title game. Obviously,

Joel did a ton of Ohio State games this year, and he is as plugged in to the Buckeyes as

anyone. We talked about them. We talked about Notre Dame, talked about the game.

We also got Joel's best rule for life, which you got to stick around in the end of the episode to hear this one.

It is incredible.

Joel's appearance is brought to you by Axia Time, the official timepiece of the college football

playoff and the Heisman trophy.

I've got my Odysseus 2 on right now.

It is spectacular.

If you are a fan of Notre Dame or Ohio State, you should be watching not just for the

game and to see if your team's going to win, but to see if you need to order yourself an Axi a timepiece. Remember, these are Swiss made automatic self-wining.

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