Welcome to Current Affairs. My name is Nathan Robinson. I am the editor in Chief of Current Affairs Magazine. I am joined today by Kat Abugazale. She is one of the leading critics of the American right specifically.

She is a producer of some fantastic, fantastic videos going through and documenting the various

hideous and morally repugnant absurdities that appear daily in right-wing media.

And she is formerly of Media Matters for America.

And we're going to discuss why formerly and what is happening to organizations like Media Matters

for America.

Kat, thank you for joining us on Current Affairs today.

Thanks for having me.

Now, I suppose the first thing I want to do is thank you for your service,

because you endure your bio on Twitter says that you watch Fox News

so that the rest of us don't have to.

So perhaps you could begin by telling our listeners and our readers

some of what you do endure on a regular basis. It's kind of fun if you're the specific

brain type that if you're a masochist, that's what it is. It's kind of fun if you're a massacist.

Other people would not have fun doing what you do.

Yeah, I mean, when I was at Media Matters, I was on night shift, which was like, you know, a small team, and we all got along really well.

Like, there was never any conflict on night shifts.

And that's because our brains were all, you know, broken in the same way.

We knew so many things about Dan Von Gino and Brian Kill Me that the average person,

even the like pretty fervent Fox viewer just wouldn't know.

I know about Sean Hannity's eclectic blend of martial arts that he does,

including Payne Day, which is a regular day on his

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