How Fast and Furious Buried an FBI Agent | John Shipley | Ep. 444
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ποΈ 20 April 2026
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Summary
John Shipley spent fourteen years carrying an FBI badge. Army aviator first β commissioned by his own father, a retired Vietnam-era lieutenant colonel β until a spinal cord injury at Walter Reed ended his flying career. He walked into Quantico in 1996, drew El Paso, and spent the next decade working narcotics and surveillance on the Mexican border. SWAT. Sniper. Bodyguard details for the FBI Director and the Attorney General. A father of two adopted kids. The kind of agent who refused a $27 million bribe because he didn't want the money β he wanted to keep his oath.
And then the government came for him.
One Barrett .50 caliber he sold legally to a county deputy years earlier ended up in a Mexican shootout. ATF traced it back. Prosecutors charged him with six felonies. What John didn't know at trial was that the gun store that brokered the final sale was an ATF informant β part of what would later be exposed as Operation Fast and Furious. They let the rifle walk. They knew. And when Mexico asked questions, they handed John up instead. He did two years in federal prison. An entire day of his trial transcript vanished from the record. Presidential executive privilege slammed down on every document that could prove it. John tells the whole story on his own terms β and he's still fighting for the pardon that would give him his rights back.
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| 0:00.0 | Okay, got the red smoke. |
| 0:05.0 | Gun runs, north and south, west of the smoke, west of the smoke. |
| 0:11.0 | Okay, copy, west of the smoke. I'm looking at danger close now. |
| 0:15.0 | I'm all winter, baby. Give it to me, I need it. You're cleared hot. |
| 0:19.0 | Copy, cleared hot. It's clear it hot. |
| 0:23.4 | Complicated topic, to say the least. |
| 0:29.6 | When you talk about this, do you prefer to unpack it sequentially? |
| 0:30.7 | What's the easiest way? |
| 0:33.7 | I mean, because there's layers upon layers, obviously. |
| 0:40.3 | Do you go just through time from backwards to forwards or where do you want to enter in? |
| 0:47.0 | Yeah, I guess we could start talking about the beginning, how I got to where I was at the point, |
| 0:51.1 | what happened, what Fast and Furious was. |
| 0:51.5 | Yeah. |
| 0:53.1 | And then how it affected me. |
| 0:53.8 | Let's do it. |
| 0:55.0 | Start wherever you want to. Okay. By all means, we're already going anyway. That's how we do was. Yeah. And then how it affected me. Let's do it. Start wherever you want to. |
| 0:55.3 | Okay. |
| 0:57.3 | By all means, we're already going anyway. |
| 0:58.1 | That's how we do it. |
| 0:58.3 | Okay. |
| 1:01.6 | So go ahead, Mr. Shipley. Tell me how the FBI took great care of you after so many years of service. |
| 1:07.3 | Well, so I started in the military like you did. My father was a lieutenant colonel, retired, Vietnam veteran. He's still alive. He's 83 years old. And my dad commissioned me. How's he doing with his service? I only ask me, is father's almost 80 and I look at their generation of |
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