I'm just not neutral on the political ideology of fascism.

We condemn it and we condemn it in full and I tell my students the purpose in a democracy

of understanding the traits of fascism is so that we can recognize it and we can combat it.

And I have no problem with the education system providing instruction on the existence of those isms.

I believe that we've gone too far when we take a position on those isms.

I'm not sure it's right for us to determine how that child should think, and that's where I'm trying to provide the guardrails.

Hey, everybody. Welcome to the Muckereak podcast. I'm Jared A. Sexton. I'm here with Nick

Allison. Listen, we got a good episode. I'm pissed off about my home state. I'll get to that in

just a second. But we are very, very happy to welcome to the podcast later,

Dr. Amy Tiemann, a safety expert, a producer, and a writer at the Substack Democracy

O'TL. Really, really good conversation. But Nick, before we get to that, before we get to

anything else, we got to go to Hoosierland where they're just dropping the damn ball like they always do.

They didn't drop it in the movie Hoosiers, so that's good.

So you're just trying to make me feel better now. Yeah. You want to know a weird fact about Hoosiers,

the movie? Yeah. My town is in Hoosiers. Oh yeah? Which town is it? Linton. They actually play Linton in the semi-final before the state final. They don't get our colors right. They don't get our mascot right, but Linton's in there. I believe that Linton is on the scoreboard, isn't it? Don't we see that? I feel like in my mind's eye I can picture of that name on the scoreboard. You made me feel so much better all right. There it is. This is a great movie. It is.

I want to let you know. And unfortunately now I have to transition from Hoosiers, a beautiful, beautiful

movie about the legacy of a state that I am from

and that I love and that constantly breaks my heart. We have to talk about this ongoing thing

that we've been discussing and covering. We've been telling you where this was going all along.

Now we need to get into it as it comes into fruition. In Indiana, something called

Senate Bill 167 pushed by Scott Baldwin, a state senator from Noblesville, which is a suburb of

Indianapolis, if you want to read between the lines there. Senate Bill 167, Nick, I got to tell you, it takes on one of the biggest problems in the United

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