This is the Tom Harbin Program.

Welcome back, Tom Harbin here with you.

On the line with us, our old buddy, Professor Richard Wolf, the economist, co-founder of

democracyatwork.info, author of numerous books, his most recent The Sickness, is the system

when capitalism fails to save us from pandemics or itself as other website, rdwolfwith2f's.com.

You can tweet him at ProfWolfwith2f's.

And Professor Wolf, welcome back to the program.

I understand that you've been doing a deep dive into countries.

What makes the difference between a country that melts down with COVID, like the United

States have.

We are 4% of the world's population.

We have one-fifth of the world's COVID cases and deaths versus countries that are

not experiencing being wiped out by COVID.

Tell us about this.

Yes, I think it's a wonderful object lesson in something that you and I have talked

about before.

What we see in countries that are otherwise quite different, like Taiwan or South Korea

on the one hand or New Zealand on the other or the people's Republic of China, Vietnam

and Cuba on the other, all these different kinds of countries with different economic

and political systems, they do have one thing in common.

They are not fundamentalists in the religious sense when it comes to the balance between

private enterprise and the government's role in the economy.

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