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This Naked Mind Podcast

How Family Trauma and Pandemic Stress Led to Drinking Wine Every Night | Ronna's Naked Life | E810

This Naked Mind Podcast

Annie Grace

Mental Health, Education, Self-improvement, Health & Fitness

4.7 • 2.7K Ratings

🗓️ 14 June 2025

⏱️ 43 minutes

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Summary

Why do I need wine every night now when I used to be able to control my drinking? Ronna faced this exact question during the pandemic when her occasional wine with dinner transformed into a nightly necessity for coping with grief and stress. As a musician and pastor's wife, she grew up in a family where alcohol was normalized, but a series of devastating losses—including her sister-in-law's suicide and her mother's death just ten days apart—pushed her daily drinking from social habit to survival tool. After discovering This Naked Mind and learning the science behind alcohol addiction, Ronna realized she wasn't weak or destined to repeat family patterns—she was simply human, responding to an addictive substance during unimaginable pain. In this episode, Ronna joins Coach Cole to share her 448-day journey from shame and hiding to freedom and self-compassion. Trigger Warning: This episode contains discussion of suicide and family loss. Coach Cole and Ronna discuss: Growing up in a family where alcohol was normalized and expected Starting drinking as a teenager and touring musician lifestyle The slow progression from wine with dinner to daily necessity How pandemic stress amplified existing drinking patterns Dealing with devastating family losses including suicide and death Using alcohol as a tool to cope with grief and stop overthinking The shame of hiding drinking while in a visible church position Discovering This Naked Mind and learning addiction science Realizing "why do I need wine every night now" had scientific answers Finding freedom in "I drink as much as I want, I just don't want to" Choosing self-compassion over shame about past drinking And other topics…

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0:00.0

You're listening to This Naked Mind with Annie Grace.

0:14.4

Hello everyone and welcome to the This Naked Mind podcast. I am Cole Harvey filling in for the

0:20.2

amazing Annie Grace. And today

0:22.3

to have the honor of having a conversation with Rana. Rana, thank you so much for being here today.

0:28.1

Thanks for having me. Yeah. So glad you're here. Just take us back. Just from the beginning of your

0:33.9

journey with alcohol and your relationship with that. Yeah, I've been a drinker for most of my

0:39.5

life. I started pretty young, probably in my early teens, just the way my family unit was set up.

0:46.7

Drinking was kind of part of what my family did. There was always alcohol around the house.

0:52.8

So I had a somewhat unhealthy relationship with it already.

0:56.5

And when I turned 18, I was kicked out of the house for being unruly and strong-headed.

1:02.3

And I started playing in music, in different bands. And with bands comes, if you don't always get paid you at least get free alcohol right so

1:13.0

it just became a lifelong journey with drinking it was just something that was always there

1:17.9

i think i always thought also in the back of my head that it was a possibility that i could be an

1:24.8

alcoholic because my mom was an alcoholic and had gone through rehab a couple of times.

1:30.0

I also have Native American background.

1:33.1

So there was always drilled into my head because you have native blood.

1:36.6

You are going to be a drinker and that's just what you were.

1:39.8

And I just accepted that.

1:41.3

That's my beginnings with alcohol.

1:43.8

Later on, probably when I turned 30,

1:46.2

actually, and became pregnant and met my husband. Actually, I met him in Europe on tour with a different

1:53.3

band. I decided I didn't want to drink anymore because I was pregnant. Of course, I wanted to

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