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How ETH Wins | Ryan & David

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4.71.2K Ratings

🗓️ 15 May 2025

⏱️ 79 minutes

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Summary

Ryan and David reunite on Bankless Takes with a big question: What must Ethereum do to win? Ryan champions a memetic and cultural shift, calling for ETH maximalism and nationalism to reignite belief in ETH as a monetary asset. David brings a product-driven roadmap, urging Ethereum to strengthen its L1 as the economic hub of the internet. Together, they explore a vision for a unified Ethereum that can scale, coordinate, and ultimately win. This isn’t just a talk—it’s a strategy session for Ethereum’s future. ------ 📣SPOTIFY PREMIUM RSS FEED | USE CODE: SPOTIFY24 https://bankless.cc/spotify-premium ------ BANKLESS SPONSOR TOOLS: 🪙FRAX | SELF SUFFICIENT DeFi https://bankless.cc/Frax 🦄UNISWAP | SWAP ON UNICHAIN https://bankless.cc/unichain 🛞MANTLE | MODULAR LAYER 2 NETWORK https://bankless.cc/Mantle 🌐SELF | PROVE YOUR SELF https://bankless.cc/Self 🟠HEMI | BTC & ETH, ONE NETWORK https://bankless.cc/hemi ------ TIMESTAMPS & RESOURCES 0:00 Intro 3:21 Job’s Not Finished 10:11 A Call for Maximalism 13:10 Blue-Money Gospel https://x.com/RyanSAdams/status/1915874994514452763 25:23 Restoring ETH’s Product-Money Feedback Loop https://www.bankless.com/read/restoring-eths-product-money-feedback-loop 46:58 Towards a United Chains of Ethereum https://x.com/RyanSAdams/status/1917298612540739931 https://x.com/Spire_Labs/status/1915430799618564394 https://l2beat.com/scaling/summary 1:05:43 ETH—Commodity Money Backed by an Economy https://x.com/RyanSAdams/status/1918065179725570536 1:08:59 Rethinking Our Messaging 1:14:49 Can Ethereum Still Win? 1:19:22 Closing & Disclaimers ------ Not financial or tax advice. See our investment disclosures here: https://www.bankless.com/disclosures⁠

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0:00.0

Bankless Nation, welcome to a bankless takes, David.

0:05.0

We haven't done one of these in a while.

0:07.0

And we've got-

0:08.0

In four months.

0:10.0

No, it's, thank you.

0:11.0

Thank you.

0:12.0

While I was away, I was thinking a lot about Ethereum.

0:15.0

And this episode, I think...

0:16.0

Where you?

0:17.0

Well, I was thinking about other things first.

0:20.0

And then toward the end, I started thinking about

0:22.4

Ethereum again. I don't think you'll ever not be thinking about Ethereum. It seems that way.

0:27.6

I mean, it's embedded pretty deep at this point. And I had a few thoughts, some things to say as

0:32.7

we're coming back. I think that's the subject of today's episode, really what Ethereum needs to do. And I've got

0:39.0

some takes. And I think, I feel like you and I have different lenses on some of the problem slash

0:44.3

solutions for Ethereum. I think my lens, if I were to like throw something out there, my lens is

0:51.7

more memetic. It's like my focus and aperture is like, hey, what memes and what

0:56.6

social layer changes around those memes does the Ethereum community need to adopt moving forward?

1:02.3

Your take, if I understand your article, is a bit more product lens focused. So you're like

1:09.4

a bit more roadmap and the things to prioritize if Ethereum is to reorient

1:15.0

and start thinking about a product led roadmap versus whatever it has been doing previously.

1:21.9

So I think we're bringing two different lenses into this conversation.

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