That just made me want to buy so much cards here.

This is the Gary V. Audio Experience.

Well we're excited to have you and I'm curious. I know you came to the national for a bit last year.

I did. What was really the tipping point awareness wise or just seeing the hobby where you were like

this is this is the different chair this is what brought you back.

For me it's the nature of flipping.

You know the macro trend of 14, 15, 16 year olds buying and selling sneakers is something

that I've watched for seven or eight years. When I really analyze that market the kids are

getting far more sophisticated. This is not what I saw from kids seven eight years ago where they

stay in line for four hours. Flip a supreme and be pumped to make their 300 bucks. This is running

hardcore tech to nap things on the web. This is having 44 kids in their high school stay in lines

for them. You know the 15, 16 year olds that I interact with on Instagram on DM they remind me of

me who at 13 and 14 I already knew what the outcome was going to be with my professional career which

I thought I was going to be successful and I can sense my own when I talk to them and some of

these 13, 14 year olds feel to me like you know I'm trying to figure out how to invest in humans and

take 20% of the upside of a 14 year old because I can see it and when I started noticing was frustration

around supply they weren't able to get enough when they were right and then I started sensing cards

momentum watching the market and basically there it was a series of a couple conversations

where I just noticed and I intuitively have decided for myself that sports cards much like

nerd culture and comic con and Marvel movies much like sneakers that there's a bubbling

a bit being cooler and more scalable than it has this has been an inside hobby so a lot of people I'm

seeing right here that I know have been to the last 22 nationals 15 nationals and over the last

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