from w nyc studios it's brian lear a daily politics podcast it's wednesday may 18th in president

biden's speech in buffalo yesterday he used the T word.

What happened here is simple and straightforward. Terrorism. Terrorism. Domestic terrorism.

President Biden also used the P word, power.

Violence inflicted into the service of hate and the vicious thirst for power that defines one group of people being inherently inferior to any other group. So the P word and the H word hate,

but he also used the A words, angry and alienated. The hate that through the media and politics, the internet,

has radicalized, angry, alienated, lost, and isolated individuals

into falsely believing that they will be replaced,

that's the word replaced by the other, by people who don't look like them.

And he came back to the P word, in fact, two P words.

We have to refuse to live in a country where fear and lies are packaged for power and for profit.

President Biden in Buffalo yesterday.

With me now is Brian Levin,

director of the Center for the Study of Hate and Extremism

at California State University in San Bernardino.

He was previously with the Southern Poverty Law Center's

Clan Watch and

Militia Task Force and a New York City police officer back in the 1980s. Professor Levin,

thanks for coming on again. Welcome back to WNYC. Thank you with a resume like that,

someone everyone can hate. There you go. And we're going to get into those different little bites of President Biden that I picked out, because I think each of them, you know, could launch a whole conversation. But first, where does the Buffalo mass murder fit into the arc of hate crimes in the United States as you study that arc right now. Racist

killings of black Americans are not all that new, obviously, not at all new. But is there

something very 2022 about this one or not so much? Oh gosh, what a great question. And the data

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