What Next - How El Chapo’s Son Got Away
What Next | Daily News and Analysis
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4.3 • 2.4K Ratings
🗓️ 22 October 2019
⏱️ 20 minutes
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Summary
Last Thursday, in the city of Culiacán, a massive gun battle between Mexican government forces and the Sinaloa cartel erupted in broad daylight. It was captured on cameras by residents across the city. For hours, residents took shelter as the Mexican forces detained the son of El Chapo, Ovidio Guzman Lopez, and tried to hold off the cartel. When it ended, El Chapo’s son was released. So why did the Mexican government give into the Sinaloa cartel’s demands? And what can be done on both sides of the border to stop such brutal violence?
Guest: León Krauze, journalist at Univision and Slate columnist
Podcast production by Mary Wilson, Jayson De Leon, Danielle Hewitt, and Mara Silvers.
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| 0:00.0 | Kulikan, Mexico is a city with a secret. |
| 0:08.1 | But journalist Lan Krausa says it's a bit of an open secret. |
| 0:12.2 | There are no clear signs that there's a criminal organization walking around. |
| 0:16.9 | You wouldn't feel threatened if you went to Kulia Khan. |
| 0:20.4 | Listen, they're hiding in plain sight. |
| 0:23.1 | They is the Sinaloa Cartel, a drug trafficking organization that, until recently, was led by Joaquin El Chapo-Gusman. |
| 0:35.6 | Walking around Kulia Khan, you might notice T-shirts and baseball caps, all stamped with 701. |
| 0:43.3 | That was Guzman's number on a Forbes billionaire's list a few years back. |
| 0:47.3 | But it's not like the people who are wearing those hats are all narcos. |
| 0:52.8 | I think one of the misconceptions is that the culture of the narcos is just exclusive to them. |
| 0:59.4 | That's not the case, especially in northern Mexico. |
| 1:03.2 | The narco-cultura is part of the culture in general. |
| 1:07.8 | Hmm. |
| 1:08.5 | When you say that it's part of the just general culture, what do you mean? |
| 1:13.5 | How does that happen? |
| 1:15.8 | It happens with time. |
| 1:18.7 | It happens with time. |
| 1:22.6 | Last week, it became clear just how much the narco culture has come to define Kulia Khan |
| 1:29.3 | when these videos started to surface on Twitter. |
| 1:35.3 | In this one, the camera points at a well-kept strip of lawn with a busy road beyond. |
| 1:41.3 | But people are running, yelling, taking cover, and all the cars are trying to move in |
| 1:48.9 | reverse. Then the gunfire begins. |
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