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Unchained

How DoubleZero Built a Faster Internet for Crypto and Helped All DePIN - Ep. 914

Unchained

Laura Shin

Tech News, Business News, News

4.61.3K Ratings

🗓️ 2 October 2025

⏱️ 36 minutes

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Summary

DoubleZero just launched its mainnet-beta, offering a new type of high-performance fiber network for blockchains, live across 5 continents and already adopted by 20%+ of Solana stake. Co-founder Austin Federa joins Unchained to walk through: How DoubleZero creates a dedicated internet for crypto Who contributes fiber and why they earn the 2Z token What the SEC’s no-action letter means for crypto and DePIN specifically And what this could unlock for L2s, onchain trading, and more Thank you to our sponsors! ⁠Binance⁠ Token2049 Guest: Austin Federa, Co-founder of DoubleZero Timestamps: 🎬 0:00 Introduction and ads: Token2049 and Binance 🌐 0:59 What’s wrong with the public internet—and why crypto needs its own ⚡ 5:28 How DoubleZero is building a dedicated network for blockchains 🌍 7:54 How the physical world gets integrated into the blockchain economy ⏱️ 10:49 Why traders demand more determinism in transaction times 🛠️ 13:09 How anyone can become a contributor to the DoubleZero network 🚫 14:32 Why Ethereum might not be the right fit for this product 💰 16:06 What role the 2Z token plays in the ecosystem 🔥 23:12 Why Jump’s token allocation sparked controversy ⚖️ 27:40 What the SEC’s no-action letter really means for DePIN 🏆 32:59 If DoubleZero succeeds, who will come out on top? Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

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0:04.5

This is what gets better connections between tokenized equities and traditional equities and having those markets trade a closer parity.

0:12.0

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0:15.0

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0:40.2

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0:45.0

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0:57.0

Welcome, Austin.

0:58.0

Hey, thanks for having me.

1:00.0

So congrats today, your main up beta is launching.

1:04.0

And I think double zero is different from other types of crypto projects.

1:08.0

You know, those obviously tend to be more about software. And as far as I understand,

1:12.3

the problem you're working on is that you believe that bandwidth and latency, not compute, are the

1:17.5

main bottlenecks for blockchains. So flesh that out. What problem is it that you're trying to

1:22.7

solve with double zero? And if you could give us an example of how that plays out

1:27.6

with an example transaction, that would be great.

1:29.8

Yeah, certainly.

1:30.7

So when I got into crypto was sort of end of 2017, beginning of 2018.

1:35.0

And back then, software was 100% the limiting factor in blockchain scale and power.

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