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Interesting Times with Ross Douthat

How Does the Catholic Church Redeem Itself?

Interesting Times with Ross Douthat

New York Times Opinion

New York Times, Journalism, News, Society & Culture, Ross Douthat

4.07.2K Ratings

🗓️ 7 March 2019

⏱️ 33 minutes

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Summary

Is prekindergarten for all a liberal pipe dream? The columnists sit down with special guest Mara Gay of The Times editorial board to discuss the successes and pitfalls of New York City's universal pre-K program. Then, Ross Douthat and New York magazine's Andrew Sullivan debate the Roman Catholic Church's dual crises around sexuality and sexual abuse — and what should be done about them. For background reading on this episode, visit nytimes.com/theargument.

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0:00.0

I'm Michelle Goldberg.

0:01.4

I'm David Leonhard.

0:02.6

I'm Ross Douthet, and this is the argument.

0:05.6

This week is Universal Pre-K just a liberal pipe dream.

0:09.2

It's been transformative for a lot of families.

0:13.6

And then what is the place of gay priests in the Catholic Church?

0:17.4

And this kind of allowed a culture of don't ask, don't tell?

0:20.8

Not just about sex abuse with children or adolescents,

0:24.0

but also about sex in general with adults.

0:27.0

And finally, a recommendation.

0:29.0

But the ones that I have come to like, I really do read.

0:31.8

I actually look forward to getting them.

0:43.0

Universal Pre-K always tends to show up on progressive policy wishlist.

0:47.2

The challenge of finding reliable, affordable child care is a huge boulder

0:54.6

which firmly between women and a million opportunities out there.

1:00.2

Advocates promise that it will help level the playing field for kids

1:03.8

by making early education more accessible,

1:06.2

which they say would lead to a range of other related effects

1:09.2

that would be really good for society.

1:11.2

But not everyone, including me, is convinced that Universal Pre-K is universally good.

1:16.2

This week we have our colleague, Mara Gay, here to join us.

1:19.2

Mara writes about New York politics for the times.

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