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Syntax - Tasty Web Development Treats

How does stuff get added to CSS? Adam Argyle answers!

Syntax - Tasty Web Development Treats

Wes Bos

Tech News, Technology, News

4.91.2K Ratings

🗓️ 12 August 2020

⏱️ 64 minutes

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In this episode of Syntax, Scott and Wes talk with Adam Argyle about how stuff gets added to CSS. LogRocket - Sponsor LogRocket lets you replay what users do on your site, helping you reproduce bugs and fix issues faster. It’s an exception tracker, a session re-player and a performance monitor. Get 14 days free at logrocket.com/syntax. Freshbooks - Sponsor Get a 30 day free trial of Freshbooks at freshbooks.com/syntax and put SYNTAX in the “How did you hear about us?” section. Guests Adam Argyle Show Notes 01:48 - Who are you and what do you do? 04:13 - How does stuff get added to CSS? 06:44 - Github issue proposal or public document Shares use case Problem made succinct StrawMan solution JS demo 10:12 - Time Multiple proposals Comments Back and forth Bikeshedding 20:00 - Editor’s draft spec (Stage 1) CSS typed Examples Provided code logic Implementor interest Can go stale Explainer Implementor Prototype behind flags in browser Intent to Prototype (I2P) 24:42 - Working Draft (Stage 2) WPTs Prototype behind flags in browser Needs two or more to graduate Intent to Ship (I2S) 24:54 - Conference Calls Around 10 items to discuss Issues or proposals Flexible list Things can be injected as emergency Things can get punted to the next call 25:26 - Face 2 Face (F2F) Four times a year Presentations Breakout sessions Houdini focus groups, etc Try to resolve as many Github issues as possible 27:34 - Candidate Recommendation (Stage 3) Could still be behind a flag Edge cases are being worked through WPTs and standards are being nudged into a final state 44:20 - Roles Spec author Community Member Print Color Internationalization Box Model AOM JS APIs Renderers etc Implementor It’s like pub/sub, where spec authors pub and implementors sub, and the community tries to help shape the message that’s published while supporting the subscribers who need to implement and make it real 46:32 - Questions What language is CSS written in? What's the deal with Houdini? Links https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts @rachelandrew @hj_chen Incomplete List of Mistakes in the Design of CSS 10 Things I Regret About Node https://ishoudinireadyyet.com/ ××× SIIIIICK ××× PIIIICKS ××× Adam Wok Scott: Balance Pad Wes: Security Bit Set Shameless Plugs Adam: The CSS Podcast Scott: CSS Design Systems - Sign up for the year and save 25%! Wes: All Courses - Use the coupon code ‘Syntax’ for $10 off! Tweet us your tasty treats! Scott’s Instagram LevelUpTutorials Instagram Wes’ Instagram Wes’ Twitter Wes’ Facebook Scott’s Twitter Make sure to include @SyntaxFM in your tweets

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0:00.0

You're listening to Syntax, the podcast with the tastiest web development treats out there.

0:06.0

Strap yourself in and get ready.

0:08.0

Here is Scott Telinsky and West Boss.

0:10.4

Welcome to Syntax. Today we have a you know it's the podcast with Thasius

0:16.8

Well development truth. I don't need to say that today. We have Adam Argyll on the

0:20.8

show to talk to us about how does stuff get added to CSS you say you

0:26.2

might be sitting there and you may be saying CSS needs a zebra stripe

0:30.5

property how how would you go about getting that added to CSS? So Adam's here today to explain all of that. We'll talk about him and introduce him in just a second. But first we are sponsored by Log Rocket, which is browser session replay and Fresh Books, which is Cloud

0:49.2

Accounting. With me, as always, is Mr. Scott Polinsky. How you doing today Scott?

0:54.4

Hey doing good, doing very good.

0:56.6

Just hanging out, you know, drinking some coffee, the rig.

1:00.3

I got a course coming out today so you know I'm on my normal go go go go

1:04.0

mode. Oh yeah good congrats so welcome Adam how you doing today? Oh I'm happy

1:11.0

I'm stoked to be here it's weird seeing your mouths move with the sound because normally all I hear is it.

1:17.6

Yeah, we only once have we ever put out that video of us recording because it's not that interesting but maybe

1:25.4

maybe one day we should. People ask for it all the time though it's not like yeah

1:28.8

yeah it's like a curiosity that I have to I have to scratch the itch. I'm just like what do they look like you know?

1:35.7

Yeah, not very good. So why don't you introduce yourself who you are where you work what you do things like that?

1:45.7

Sure my name is Adam Margisle. I'm a 34 year old dude from Seattle. I've been writing code and

1:51.4

apps for professionally over 10 years. I currently work at

1:55.2

Google I'm on the Chrome team and I love CSS with like this crazy fiery passion. I really

2:01.0

just love making like good smooth tangible gorgeous buttery silky interfaces but you know I do that at Google and I teach and I talk about it that's kind of me in a nutshell I guess.

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