You're listening to the Family Discibleship podcast, a podcast of Training the Church.

If we're not loving God as God in our lives, then I think that's going to trickle down into the various aspects of our family, of our marriage and of our family.

Husbands think I'm just the guy that I am just, I'm the way that I am.

She's a talker, I'm not.

And I want to dispel that myth that you don't have to be emotionally unintelligence.

You can grow in emotional intelligence, emotional awareness as a means of being faithful with God and as a means of loving your life.

Not only shows them that, you know, Dad means what Dad says, and so I have a Father in Heaven

that also means what he says, but also have a Father in Heaven who's gracious. And he's not

giving me everything that I deserve, but instead he's extended grace because that's just who he is.

He's gracious.

This is Adam Griffin, and I am not here with my co-host today.

I am flying solo.

But, man, we have a tremendous guest for you on the podcast today.

My friend, we've known each other now for years, and I've admired him from afar over and over and over again. This is my friend Ryan Frederick from Fierce Marriage. I need to do it today, Ryan. Adam, so good to be with you, man. It's always fun talking to you. It has been years, haven't it? Yeah, years. I mean, I remember the day we met. There was a, you scheduled appointment. I don't know what you were in Dallas for, but you just popped into the office. And then it was my intro to you and a fierce parenting. Yeah, we were checking out the sending program there at the village back then. Yeah. But we met you instead. So this is great. Yeah. Yeah. You got the bum end of the deal there, but I am so grateful for all the ministry you guys have. I've gotten to read your books before they've come out. I've sent you mine before they come out. You guys endorsed family discipleship, which I was so grateful for. And then, of course, your ministry to couples and the families is profound. I want to talk about that more here in a second.

Before we jump into the conversation,

could you just tell us a little about what the work is that you and Selena do,

but also your family a little bit?

Yeah, so Selena and I have been married almost 20 years.

We celebrated our 19th anniversary about three months ago.

In that time, we've been able to, God has blessed us with three daughters. Nine and down, our youngest daughter that's not in the womb is three. We have a, we don't know, we have another baby we're expecting any time now. So by the time maybe could be born during this recording, right? Like, could be right now.

If I run away, you know exactly why. Yes, Celine, I think it's 38 and a half weeks along. So by the time this maybe is released, we might even have the baby in our arms. So we don't know if it's a boy or a girl. We're excited to find out. This is the first one where we've not snuck a peek or asked the doctor to tell us. So there's a lot of anticipation around the Frederick household.

In terms of the ministry that we do, we started ministering to

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