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🗓️ 31 October 2022
⏱️ 55 minutes
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In Episode 279 of Hidden Forces, Demetri Kofinas speaks with Kaiser Kuo. Kaiser is the host and co-founder of the Sinica Podcast, the editor-at-large of The China Project, and the former director of international communications for Baidu, China’s leading search engine.
How does China see the world? What do we get wrong when talking about China? What are the central diving forces in Chinese politics? And what “does China want?”
While concrete answers to such complex social and political questions are illusive, grappling with them is essential if we want to find a peaceful way through what is becoming an increasingly dangerous period in US-China relations.
The goal of this conversation is to provide you with a more circumspect and culturally informed perspective on China. You will learn about the country’s history, the lived experience of its people, their assumptions, values, and beliefs about the world and their place in it, and to learn to see ourselves and the world from China’s eyes.
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Episode Recorded on 10/24/2022
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0:00.0 | What's up everybody? My name is Dmitri Kaffinas and you're listening to Hidden Forces, |
0:05.9 | a podcast that inspires investors, entrepreneurs and everyday citizens to challenge consensus |
0:13.2 | narratives and to learn how to think critically about the systems of power shaping our world. |
0:19.2 | My guest in today's episode is Kaiser Guo. Besides having probably the coolest |
0:24.1 | name of any guest I've ever had on the show before, Kaiser is also the host and co-founder |
0:29.3 | of the Seneca podcast, the leading English language podcast on current affairs in China, |
0:35.1 | the editor at large of the China project, a New York-based China-focused news information |
0:41.5 | and business services platform, the former editor of international communications for Baidu, |
0:46.8 | China's leading search engine, and the co-founder and lead guitarist of the seminal Chinese heavy |
0:52.8 | metal band Tang Dynasty. I asked Kaiser to come on the podcast today because I have felt for some |
0:59.2 | time that my coverage of China has been too narrowly focused on US national security concerns |
1:06.9 | and the concerns of investors and businesses as they pertain to the Chinese economy and in |
1:11.8 | particular its technology sector. I'm acutely aware of just how little I know about the country |
1:19.1 | and that makes it even more dangerous to speak with people who all share most of the same |
1:25.3 | assumptions because I'm not in a position to really challenge them. I have to listen to Kaiser's |
1:30.3 | podcast precisely because it offers a more circumspect and culturally informed perspective |
1:36.0 | on this incredibly important country. It teaches me things about China's history, |
1:40.5 | the lived experience of its people, their assumptions, values, and beliefs about the world |
1:45.8 | and their place in it that are often caricatured or ignored entirely in Western media. |
1:51.8 | My goal in this conversation has been to harness that perspective in the service of building |
1:57.1 | what Kaiser calls informed empathy, to learn to see ourselves and the world from China's eyes. |
2:03.7 | What do we get wrong when talking about China? What are the central driving forces in Chinese politics? |
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