How doctors helped tank universal health care
The Indicator from Planet Money
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🗓️ 9 June 2025
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| 0:00.0 | NPR. Healthcare. |
| 0:12.6 | Healthcare. |
| 0:13.8 | Adrian, pretty much everyone agrees. |
| 0:15.6 | It's not going well. |
| 0:16.8 | U.S. healthcare outcomes often rank near the bottom. |
| 0:19.9 | And, of course, there have been a lot of attempts to fix this, |
| 0:22.8 | a lot of politicians proposing to overhaul the system. |
| 0:26.7 | We should emulate what goes on around the rest of the world |
| 0:29.2 | and guarantee health care to all people. |
| 0:31.3 | And there have also been a lot of criticisms of those attempts. |
| 0:34.9 | Congressional Democrats embrace Crazy Bernie's socialist health care takeover. |
| 0:39.5 | That particular rhetoric, basically calling these health care plans socialism, |
| 0:44.8 | it really takes off at a particular historical moment back in the 1940s. |
| 0:49.8 | That's right. This is the indicator from Planet Money. |
| 0:52.6 | I'm Adrian Ma. And we today includes a friend of the show, Sally Helm. |
| 0:57.5 | Hello, Adrian. I am very glad to be here. Today on the show, we speak with a doctor and economist who's researched this history about how doctors actually help tank single-payer health care in the 1940s. |
| 1:09.4 | And the role communism played in the fight. |
| 1:13.8 | In the fall of 1944, California Governor Earl Warren comes down with a kidney infection. |
| 1:19.3 | He's hospitalized, and while he's recuperating, he starts reflecting on just how much this |
| 1:24.4 | treatment cost, and it cost a lot. |
| 1:28.1 | Marcella Alshan is an economist at Harvard and a physician herself. |
| 1:32.2 | She has a working paper on this. |
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