How do young people feel about being called up to fight?
Ukrainecast
BBC
4.7 • 1K Ratings
🗓️ 2 February 2024
⏱️ 30 minutes
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Summary
As Ukraine’s much discussed mobilisation bill returns to parliament, we catch up with friend of the podcast and student Vitalii Pashchenko, to find out how he and his friends feel about the conscription age being lowered from 27 to 25.
He tells us about life in Kyiv, and why his family have decided to return to Ukraine after fleeing to Poland at the start of the war.
Vitaly also speaks to Ukraine’s Prosecutor General, Andriy Kostin, and his UK counterpart, Victoria Prentis. They reveal how Ukraine is investigating war crimes and seeking justice - and how the UK is assisting in this work.
Today’s episode is presented by Victoria Derbyshire and Vitaly Shevchenko. It was made by Keiligh Baker. The producers were Ivana Davidovic, Cordelia Hemming and Arsenii Sokolov. The technical producer was Mike Regaard. The series producer is Lucy Boast. The senior news editor is Jonathan Aspinwall. Email Ukrainecast@bbc.co.uk with your questions and comments. You can also send us a message or voice note via WhatsApp, Signal or Telegram to +44 330 1239480
You can join the Ukrainecast discussion on Newscast’s Discord server here: tinyurl.com/ukrainecastdiscord
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| 0:00.0 | BBC Sounds, music radio podcasts. |
| 0:04.6 | Hello, it's 709 days since Russia began its full-scale invasion of Ukraine. |
| 0:09.4 | And we heard President Putin singing the national anthem yesterday at a closing ceremony |
| 0:14.3 | for a gathering of teenagers and young people who were part of the Russian patriotic youth movement |
| 0:19.5 | called Movement of the First. And you can hear him singing a little bit at the beginning and then in the clip that's been posted on social media he hands the microphone to various teenagers around him and they wholeheartedly carry on singing the anthem and at the end they're all shouting Russia Russia Russia |
| 0:47.0 | It's been described in various ways in various publications and websites across Europe and Russia, hasn't it, Vitali? |
| 0:58.0 | Yes, in the West it's not gone down particularly well, unsurprisingly. |
| 1:05.0 | The words, |
| 1:06.5 | cringe worthy is something that commentators are using. |
| 1:10.7 | But in Russia, it's all over state-controlled media and there's a definite propaganda line there |
| 1:17.8 | with several pro-Cremen sources saying that the Jimmy Rich Putin doesn't normally demonstrate his |
| 1:26.8 | singing skills in public but this time he made an exception to help the kids. |
| 1:32.1 | The important point to make here though is that this is a |
| 1:36.7 | version of the Soviet anthem. albeit with new lyrics, words, and when it was approved shortly after the |
| 1:49.0 | Merrputin came to power back in the year 2000. |
| 1:56.8 | It became one of the first signs of what he was setting out to achieve as |
| 2:01.4 | Russia's president with so many people saying now that he's trying to |
| 2:04.6 | restore the Soviet Union but one of the first things he restored was the Soviet anthem |
| 2:09.5 | with new words. |
| 2:10.5 | Were people in the year 2000 saying, ah, this is a clue as to what he really wants to do when this came back? |
| 2:17.5 | Well, he's predecessor, Boris Yeltsin, when he heard this he seemed appalled he seemed to realize what |
| 2:27.0 | mistake he had made by effectively introducing Vladimir Putin as his successor and he said the new words do not save |
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