4.8 • 770 Ratings
🗓️ 24 August 2021
⏱️ 39 minutes
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Now that the Taliban has taken over Afghanistan, many nationals are scrambling to cover up their digital lives. Any sign of cooperation with Americans could be a death sentence. In this episode, Kim talks with Ricoh Danielson, a vet who served in Iraq and Afghanistan, breaking into cellphones and discovering secrets on the ground.
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0:00.0 | They are a very lean, mean fighter. |
0:03.0 | They know what they're doing. |
0:04.0 | They're very historic. |
0:05.0 | They're very fundamental fighters. |
0:07.0 | I couldn't imagine being there when all this was happening. |
0:12.0 | It was so disheartening to watch. |
0:14.0 | When gunmen prowled the streets and your heart is pounding as you hide inside your home. |
0:18.0 | Your mind goes to every little thing I can imagine that could get you killed. |
0:22.2 | A smartphone, a personal computer, a single song that you sang so proudly yesterday could bring you |
0:27.3 | nothing and your family devastation today. Well, this is the reality for millions of Afghan citizens. |
0:33.9 | Imagine you're faced with this impossible choice. What do you do with your digital world? Everything from |
0:39.5 | your passport, your text, your financial accounts, your laptops, your tablets, your social media |
0:44.7 | accounts, everything. Do you just erase it all? Get rid of it for your very own safety? Now that |
0:50.9 | the Taliban has taken over, millions of people are racing to just get rid of every last |
0:55.9 | trace of their online lives. Every photo is a link to the past, and the Taliban are cruel. They're |
1:00.3 | unforgiving. They are just horrible. Here in the United States, we would never really think or even |
1:06.4 | consider that our government would kill us because of the contents of our phone. |
1:11.6 | But the Afghans are plunging into a nightmare. After knowing and embracing all the wonders of modern technology, |
1:17.6 | they don't have any more digital worlds. It's just gone. Imagine if you had to go back. |
1:23.6 | So many Afghans are finding clever solutions amidst all the chaos. They're backing up their data to the cloud. |
1:29.0 | They're destroying all the evidence. |
1:30.8 | But even that is not 100% safe since third parties, you know, they can break into your cloud accounts. |
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