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The Dispatch Podcast

How Do You Solve a Problem Like Trump?

The Dispatch Podcast

The Dispatch

News, Politics

4.63.3K Ratings

🗓️ 18 September 2020

⏱️ 38 minutes

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Summary

“People ask me this all the time, ‘Why the hell did you stay?’ ” explains Miles Taylor, the former chief of staff for the Department of Homeland Security under the Trump administration and founder of the Republican Political Alliance for Integrity and Reform (REPAIR). “And my response is: If you saw what was happening, why the hell wouldn’t you stay if you cared about your country?” On today’s episode, Miles Taylor gives Sarah and Steve an inside scoop as to what it’s like working for a president who constantly gives you orders to break the law and who believes he has “magical powers” to do whatever he wants. The most frustrating part of his job as DHS chief of staff, he said, was watching high officials who expressed disdain for the president in private but refused to speak up when it mattered most. “There was another time that we were in [the Oval Office] and he went off on a tirade about the Mexicans,” Taylor explains, “In the conversations he said, ‘Look, Mexico is just a total hellhole, isn’t it? It’s just a total hellhole.’ And he kind of looked around the room for agreement, and he was like, ‘Right? You know I can’t say shithole countries anymore but it’s a hellhole, right?” Taylor said most people in the room—except for one official who Taylor didn’t name—laughed it off and nodded rather than standing up to the president. Taylor said he and his colleagues went into that administration recognizing that Donald Trump was a man of pretty poor character, but there was a hope that the office itself would perhaps change the president for the better. “I really think once he had the powers of the presidency, he got drunk on the powers of the presidency and they did not have that sobering effect, they had a very inebriating effect on President Trump and magnified some of his worst impulses.” Tune in to hear Miles explain what it’s like having a Trump tweet change the trajectory of your entire day as a DHS staffer, whether Republicans should vote for Biden this election cycle, and how REPAIR hopes to fix the GOP in the post-Trump era. If anything, tune just in to hear Taylor explain why “every single day in the Donald Trump administration was a pride swallowing siege.” Show Notes: -The Republican Political Alliance for Integrity and Reform. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

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0:07.0

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0:17.0

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0:27.0

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0:34.0

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0:44.0

All right, our episode today, we are joined by Miles Taylor. He was the chief of staff at the Department of Homeland Security

0:52.0

and has come out to endorse Joe Biden and start the group repair. We will talk to him about why he has endorsed Joe Biden after serving in the Trump administration and what this group is all about.

1:06.0

Let's dive in Miles Taylor joining us. Your new group is called repair. It's an acronym. Tell us what the acronym means.

1:30.0

The acronym is the Republican political alliance for integrity and reform and thank God for acronyms because we will just call it repair.

1:39.0

For the rest of this pod, yes, definitely for the rest of this pod. And what's the thesis of repair?

1:45.0

So we started the organization with really a three-fold mission. One, we feel like we need to restore leadership in Washington, DC.

1:54.0

That's a very not so subtle way of saying we think that Donald Trump's tenure in Washington should end this coming January.

2:04.0

Two, we're really focused on getting the Republican party to adjust its priorities and be a more inclusive and intellectually diverse party in the post-Trump era.

2:15.0

And then three, we really are trying to repair the country. We think that the president, not just his rhetoric, but his policies, have done real damage to the fabric of our Republican.

2:25.0

So the organization is going to bring together senior officials from the Reagan, HW Bush, W Bush, and Trump administrations along with former members of Congress to lead an effort to talk about the future of the Republican party in the country in that post-Trump era.

2:42.0

So we're excited about it and we just officially launched this week.

2:46.0

So we already had the Lincoln project. We also had Republican voters against Trump. Why did you think there needed to be another never Trump organization?

2:57.0

That's a great question. So I had conversations with a lot of those different groups. And the conclusion that I came to was they were all focused on November 3rd and defeating Donald Trump.

3:09.0

But there weren't enough groups out there focused on the post-Trump period. What are we going to do after November 3rd? What are we going to do with the Republican party?

3:16.0

Who do we want to be after the Trump era? Because look, I think that a lot of folks would agree. The Republican party right now is a cult of personality. It's totally built around one man.

3:26.0

So what do we do when that one man's gone? Whether it's in six months or four years in six months. And we wanted to start that conversation.

3:33.0

We felt like those other groups because they were so focused on the election and the politics weren't as focused on the ideas that needed to come next to replace Donald Trump.

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