Welcome to the dispatch podcast. I'm your host, Sarah Isger.

And today, we're going to talk big picture this primary season.

Sure, individual primaries have been going on for the last month.

And we talk about Canada Day versus Canada B or C and who's winning and who's losing.

But do we spend enough time talking about why our primary system works the way it does?

And whether we're actually incentivizing the right people to run, the right people to win,

and once they're in office, to do the right thing.

So today, we're going to talk to two experts about that.

One is Professor Edward Fouley of Ohio State University's Moritz College of Law.

He is also the author of a new Law Review article, Lewis and Clark Law Review,

that we'll put in the show notes, why Congress can and should adopt a majority winner requirement.

And we're also going to talk to Nick Triano.

Nick is the executive director of Unite America, a national organization that works to bridge the

growing partisan divide by enacting political reforms and electing candidates who put people over party.

Nick has a new website out there called primaryproblem.us, where you can see some of the math in action.

It's going to be a nerdy, fun, big conversation about American democracy and how we preserve self-government.

Let's dive right in. Professor Fouley, Ned.

It's weird to call a law professor by his first name.

I'm still very much a law student at heart.

You recently published a Washington Post op-ed entitled, How Our System of Primary Elections

Could Destroy Democracy.

We talk a little bit about just what you see the problem being right now.

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