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🗓️ 10 April 2023
⏱️ 9 minutes
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0:00.0 | Hey, everybody, welcome to Ask Me Anything. My name is Matt Love. I'm here with Pastor J.D. Greer. |
0:24.0 | And we have a listener question today. That is, unfortunately, J.D., probably a little bit, a question |
0:32.2 | that's probably more common than we wish it was, but a question we know that a lot of people are asking. |
0:38.6 | So the question, |
0:44.1 | J.D, today is how do you handle it when a Christian leader falls? Yeah, Matt, that's a very, |
0:48.8 | it's a very painful question. And I know that for some of this, there are a few things quite as devastating as seeing somebody that you have looked at as a spiritual hero, a mentor, father or mother type figure |
0:55.4 | in the ministry that suddenly falls. Sometimes it's somebody you see from a distance whose teaching |
1:00.4 | has had a big impact on you or whose life is just modeled for you what it means to walk with |
1:05.7 | Jesus in incredible ways. Sometimes you, you know, somebody that's up close, maybe somebody that |
1:10.2 | not everybody's heard of, |
1:11.4 | but just had a big impact on you. And then you start raising questions like, well, were they always |
1:16.2 | a hypocrite or was this just a moment of weakness that they got caught in? Or was everything they |
1:22.3 | ever taught me a lie? I'll just tell you, I've had to wrestle through a lot of this because sadly, |
1:37.3 | a lot of the men that I looked up to in ministry, I could name several of them names you would probably immediately recognize who have disqualified themselves for ministry. There was a book that was written by Paul Tripp called Dangerous Calling, And it was on the danger of being called into ministry. |
1:46.5 | And the irony is if you open up the cover and look at all the names of the guys who endorsed the book, |
1:52.4 | they were all really good friends of mine. |
1:54.4 | And all of them except for one on that page of endorsements, all of them have fallen from ministry. |
2:02.3 | And so I asked Paul Tripp that. |
2:07.7 | Paul Tripp's a Christian counselor. And he said, he said something that I've never forgotten. |
2:11.3 | I've shared it in multiple contexts. In fact, I might even have shared it here and asked me anything, |
2:20.9 | but I think it bears repeating. As I said, why are these guys, why do mega church pastors and mega leaders, why do they seem to fall at such a high rate? And you kind of lean back in his chair and he stroked his humongous mustache and he said, |
2:26.9 | he said, well, there's two things and they're a deadly cocktail. As he said, number one is they lose |
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