How Do We Think About the 2024 Election?

Talk Easy with Sam Fragoso

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🗓️ 17 March 2024

⏱️ 77 minutes

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Summary

Writer Evan Osnos (The New Yorker, CNN) has been interviewing Joe Biden on and off for the past decade. He recently profiled the 46th President ahead of his State of the Union, offering a rare (and revealing) portrait of the elder statesman from Pennsylvania.

In act one, we outline the state and stakes of the 2024 election (7:20), Biden’s demeanor “behind closed doors” (12:07), the accomplishments (15:42) and failures (21:00) of his first term, and what’s changed since his initial pitch to be a ‘transitional candidate’ (26:31).

In act two, we turn to the twice-impeached, four-time criminal indictee, and presumptive GOP nominee for president, Donald Trump: his symbolic campaign announcement in Waco, Texas (32:40), the ‘combat mentality’ at the center of his bid for reelection (35:54), and the authoritarian vision (38:00) he has for America, come 2025 (39:25).

In act three, a speed-round of pressing questions you may have about the 2024 election (54:27), an attempt to wrestle with Biden’s psychology (1:03:08), and, to close, a timely passage from Osnos’ stunning book Wildland: The Making of America’s Fury (1:12:18).

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0:00.0	I'm David Remnickin each week on the New Yorker radio hour. My colleagues and I
0:04.8	unpack what's happening in a very complicated world. You'll hear from the New
0:09.2	Yorker's award-winning reporters and thinkers,
0:11.7	Gilani Cobb on race and justice,
0:14.0	Jill Lepore on American history,
0:16.0	Vincent Cunningham and Gia Tolantino on culture,
0:19.0	Bill McKibbon on climate change and many more.
0:22.0	To get the context behind events in the news, climate change and many more.
0:22.5	To get the context behind events in the news,
0:25.3	listen to the New Yorker radio hour,
0:27.5	wherever you get your podcast. Pushkin. This is talk easy. I'm standing for reporter Evan Osnos.
1:15.0	Osnos has been a staff writer for the New Yorkers since 2008, covering politics and foreign affairs.
1:21.0	You may have also seen him on CNN where he's a regular
1:24.5	contributor throughout election season. That's why I wanted to sit with Evan,
1:29.2	especially on the heels of Joe Biden and Donald Trump securing the required delegates to become their
1:35.6	party's nominees.
1:37.3	I know for many people listening to this right now, the fact that that sentence is true. That is true again in 2024 as it was in 2020 is deeply upsetting.
1:48.0	It's the sequel nobody asked for, a rematch that makes just about everyone I know in my life want to get into a cryo chamber
1:55.8	and set the timer to 2028 or at the very least January 20th 2025 which is when in all likelihood Donald Trump or Joe Biden will be sworn in for a second
2:07.8	term.
2:08.8	So with all of that, what do we do with these choices?
2:14.0	That's the question that guides this conversation.
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