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Not Another One

How do we survive Trump?

Not Another One

Richards Green Montgomerie Martin

Prime Minister, Political Commentary, Number 10, News, Rishi Sunak, Political, Not Another One, Politics, General Election

4.7566 Ratings

🗓️ 17 January 2025

⏱️ 42 minutes

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Summary

Ahead of the inauguration, our team discusses the challenges facing Keir Starmer and Britain in dealing with the incoming President of the United States. Is it possible for the UK to have its cake and eat it, getting closer to the EU while also keeping in with Trump somehow? How will ministers navigate the difficult four years ahead?

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0:00.0

Hello and welcome to not another one with me Steve Richards, Miranda Green, Ian Martin and Tim Montgomery.

0:16.7

Thank you for tuning in to this, our second podcast of the week.

0:21.2

And of course now, it's just days before President Trump returns to the White House.

0:28.3

And this moment comes at a point where for the British Labour government here,

0:34.1

things are happening on all sorts of different, or in all sorts of different places.

0:39.3

I mean, it's very interesting as Trump prepares to go in.

0:42.8

A new very significant figure has been appointed as our sort of main EU negotiator from the cabinet office, Michael Ellum.

0:50.6

There used to be a big figure in the Treasury.

0:53.4

He's now permanent secretary. He's now permanent secretary, he's not

0:55.6

permanent secretary, he's responsible for EU and international economic affairs. And that shows

1:01.9

that they want to get closer to Europe. Rachel Reeves, only the other day in China. They want to

1:07.2

get closer to China and yet there is Trump and they want to be close to him as well.

1:13.0

Some call this cakeism.

1:15.2

Now, do you think, Tim, when President Trump gets in, very quickly, it will become clear that not all of these three different initiatives are feasible.

1:30.8

Yes, I too.

1:33.2

I think it's a very brave government policy to have cosied up to China

1:39.1

just at the moment that Trump is coming in

1:42.0

because Trump hasn't been consistent on everything in his

1:46.2

career but in the 80s when he was

1:48.9

sort of the real estate magnate, he was very worried about

1:51.3

Japan stealing from

1:52.9

American sort of

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