Pastor John and I recently recorded a few episodes of this podcast live in Nashville in

front of about 2,500 friends who joined us early in the morning for the recording.

I know a number of you who listen were there so grateful to have you there in person

and to see you there in Nashville.

We addressed one of the most common questions that you've been asking that you've been sending

to us.

Have a listen.

The emails that come in and hear from podcast listeners, there's nothing that dominates

the conversation right now than the fact that a very prominent leader within our circles

has quote unquote de-converted.

You know him.

He was my pastor for four years, a beloved pastor.

A lot of people just don't know how to handle the news online.

There's a lot of hand-ringing and finger-pointing, you know, is this big American evangelical celebrity

culture gone wrong?

Is this the consequence of huge reform conferences, even like this one?

Is this the backlash of the repressive purity movement gone wrong?

Is this a leader who was given too much responsibility, too young, on and on?

There's lots of finger-pointing, but I've noticed a different tone among self-reflective

leaders and that is they realize this could be me.

If he could fall, this could be me.

So what would you say to those of us in this room who have a healthy distrust of our

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