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Pulling The Thread with Elise Loehnen

How Do We Respond to Evil? (Monthly Solo)

Pulling The Thread with Elise Loehnen

Lemonada Media

Self-improvement, Education

4.81.2K Ratings

🗓️ 23 February 2026

⏱️ 60 minutes

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Summary

I’m reflecting more deeply on evil in the present moment: What is evil? What’s our relationship to it? How do we increase our tolerance for acknowledging dark energies so that we can moderate and metabolize them—and keep ourselves and others safe? This episode is not meant to scare; my intention is really the opposite, as I don’t find fear to be helpful here. I’ll be sharing a few sources and ways of thinking—about evil and how we might respond to what’s currently playing out in the culture—that I do find incredibly helpful. There’s psychiatrist M. Scott Peck on exorcisms and the lie of evil, a framework of understanding from psychic medium Carissa Schumacher, a beautiful map for us to follow from energy healer Carla Schwiderski, and more.   As always, if you want to explore further, you can find links in the show notes on my Substack. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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and their hard-earned wisdom. Every conversation leaves me a little smarter and definitely more inspired. And yes,

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0:39.8

It's morning in New York.

0:42.8

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0:46.2

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0:47.3

I'm Mandy Patinkin.

0:48.6

And I'm Catherine Grady.

0:49.8

And we have a new podcast.

0:51.7

It's called Don't Listen to Us.

0:54.1

Many of you've asked for our advice.

0:56.1

Tell me, what is wrong with you people? Don't listen to us. Our Take It or Leave a Advice show

1:01.8

every Wednesday out now, a Lemonada.

1:15.9

Hi, it's Elise Loonan, host to Pulling the Thread, and it's time for our monthly solo.

1:22.6

Music Hi, it's Elise Lunan host of Pulling the Thread.

1:37.0

On this show, we pull apart the web in which we all live to understand who we are and why we're here.

1:43.4

My hope is that these conversations spark moments of resonance

1:46.4

and plant tiny seeds of awareness

1:48.4

so that we might all collectively learn and grow.

1:54.2

Well, every month I'm always waiting in some way to understand

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