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Nobody Should Believe Me

How Do We Prevent Child Abuse? With Kathleen Strader

Nobody Should Believe Me

True Story Media

Society & Culture, True Crime, Personal Journals

4.23.3K Ratings

🗓️ 4 December 2025

⏱️ 62 minutes

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Summary

This week we’re re-releasing Andrea’s conversation with Kathleen Strader from Prevent Child Abuse America. While Nobody Should Believe Me is, at its core, raising awareness about Munchausen by Proxy abuse, we’ve been pulled into the larger question of “how do we make sure children are safe in their homes?”. We’ll continue exploring that next week during Andrea’s interview with Dr. Randy Alexander and throughout season 7 (coming soon!). *** This week Andrea is joined by Kathleen Strader, the National Director for Healthy Families America, the signature home visiting program of Prevent Child Abuse America. Following the Take Care of Maya film and media coverage of so-called "medical kidnapping" and misleading coverage of child abuse, we move the conversation to solutions: what can we do to prevent child abuse? We delve into Kathleen's background dealing with child abuse cases and her work supporting families through home visiting programs. Their conversation touches on the complexities of child abuse, systemic issues, and the importance of supportive measures and interventions that meet families where they are. As we wrap up our coverage of the landmark Kowalski v Johns Hopkins All Children's case, we issue a hopeful message of how we can alleviate one of society's most challenging problems. * * * Check out ⁠Prevent Child Abuse America⁠.     Try out Andrea’s Podcaster Coaching App: https://studio.com/apps/andrea/podcaster Tickets for Nobody Should Believe Me LIVE: https://www.andreadunlop.net/nobody-should-believe-me-live Order Andrea’s book The Mother Next Door: Medicine, Deception, and Munchausen by Proxy.  Click here to view our sponsors. Remember that using our codes helps advertisers know you’re listening and helps us keep making the show!   Subscribe on YouTube where we have full episodes and lots of bonus content.  Follow Andrea on Instagram: @andreadunlop Buy Andrea's books here.  For more information and resources on Munchausen by Proxy, please visit MunchausenSupport.com The American Professional Society on the Abuse of Children’s MBP Practice Guidelines can be downloaded here. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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I love audiobooks for the same reason I love podcasts. They can go everywhere with me, the car, the garden, on a walk, and with the mother next door, I got to bring all my worlds together as I narrate one of my own books for the very first time. You can find the mother next door

0:21.2

wherever you get audiobooks. Here's a snippet. When the nurse who was administering the test

0:26.5

briefly left the room, Hope turned to Amy and asked if she could take her daughter to the bathroom

0:31.3

so that Sophia could have a meltdown. It was bizarre. Amy explained to hope that she could not allow her to be alone with

0:39.2

Sophia. A short time later, the results of the sweat test came back. Negative.

0:46.3

Sophia didn't have cystic fibrosis. For almost any parent in the world, the news that their

0:52.0

child didn't have a terminal illness would have brought

0:54.6

tears of relief. But upon hearing the test results, hope broke down in tears for a very different

1:00.7

reason. She'd been caught. Hey, it's Andrea. It's come to my attention that some of you have been

1:07.9

served programmatic ads for ICE on my show. Now, podcasters don't get a lot of

1:12.5

control over which individual ads play and for whom on our shows, but please know that we are trying

1:18.0

everything we can to get rid of these by tightening our filters. And if you do continue to hear them,

1:23.9

please do let us know. In the meantime, I want it to be known that I do not support ICE.

1:29.9

I am the daughter of an immigrant. I stand with immigrants. Immigrants make this country great.

1:35.5

Hello, it's Andrea, and today I'm really excited to share a conversation that I had with Kathleen

1:41.1

Strater from Prevent Child Abuse America while I was covering the Maya Kowalski case.

1:46.5

Nobody should believe me has always been a mission-driven show, and while raising awareness

1:51.0

about Munchausen by proxy abuse still remains at the core of our mission, increasingly,

1:56.5

I've been drawn to this bigger question of how we ensure that children are safe in their homes,

2:01.9

because I believe that that's their right as little human beings. Now, the question of how to

2:07.5

prevent Munchausen by proxy abuse is not yet clear, because we're mostly still in the process

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