How do we build a new masculinity ?
Arts & Ideas
BBC
4.2 • 598 Ratings
🗓️ 13 July 2020
⏱️ 45 minutes
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Summary
Artist and photographer Sunil Gupta, authors CN Lester (Trans Like Me) and Tom Shakespeare (The Sexual Politics of Disability), and Barbican curator Alona Pardo join Matthew Sweet in a discussion inspired by the Barbican exhibition called Masculinities: Liberation Through Photography which has this week re-opened to visitors. They debate whether the old construct of masculinity in our culture is broken? As new ideas and thinking enter the debate, what is essential and what we can do away with as we look to build a new masculinity?
The exhibition now runs until August 23rd.
Producer: Caitlin Benedict Web image credits: Sunil Gupta, Untitled 22 from the series Christopher Street, 1976. Courtesy the artist and Hales Gallery. © Sunil Gupta. All Rights Reserved, DACS 2019
You can find other Free Thinking discussions looking at identity and masculinity The Changing Image of Masculinity discussed by JJ Bola, Derek Owusu & Ben Lerner https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m000b0mx Beards, Listening, Masculinity https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b0833ypd Jordan B Peterson https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b0b3fk63 Can there be multiple versions of me https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b09wvlxs TV presenter and campaigner June Sarpong, performer Emma Frankland, GP and author Gavin Francis and philosopher Julian Baggini discuss the changing self with Anne McElvoy
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| 0:34.5 | music, radio, podcasts. Hello, I'm Matthew Sweet and this is the Arts and Ideas podcast. |
| 0:41.1 | Are you interested in men? Excellent. |
| 0:43.4 | Well, this edition should suit you. |
| 0:45.4 | It's inspired by an exhibition at the Barbican Centre about masculinity |
| 0:49.2 | that opened just before lockdown began and the galleries and museums went dark. Now the Barbican |
| 0:55.6 | Centre is reopening and the show is back on. So as you listen to our discussion, then know |
| 1:00.5 | this story has a happy ending. We're so butch on free thinking. Really, we are, or sufficiently |
| 1:06.9 | so anyway, to tackle the subject of tonight's programme, which is masculinity, |
| 1:12.4 | often said to be in crisis. That was how it was put in the 1990s when we watched the full Monty |
| 1:18.7 | and realised that the post-industrial world had made male work clothes as quaintly kinky as French maids' outfits. |
| 1:27.4 | Nowadays we hear another word, toxic, as if certain types, certain flavours of masculinity |
| 1:32.7 | might make you sick like the angry red flesh of a mushroom, one of those ones that you suddenly |
| 1:38.6 | see in the woods. |
| 1:40.3 | On this programme, we'll consider other words. |
| 1:42.7 | Is masculinity broken? |
| 1:44.6 | Is it working? |
| 1:45.6 | Has its big end gone? |
| 1:47.1 | Do we need to rebuild it using new components? |
| 1:50.1 | Well, we have a quick-fit team of guests to get under its hood and suck their teeth and tell us what it'll cost us. |
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