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How Do GLP-1 Drugs Override Our Biology?

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🗓️ 8 July 2025

⏱️ 19 minutes

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Summary

In his new book, a former FDA commissioner unpacks the latest science on metabolism, weight loss, and how GLP-1 drugs actually work.

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0:00.0

Hey, I'm Flor Lichtenen, and you're listening to Science Friday.

0:06.8

Today in the show, those popular weight loss drugs and the science of how they work.

0:12.9

The drugs work primarily. I'm not saying this is the only way they work. They work essentially

0:18.4

through their adverse effects. Over the past couple years,

0:24.5

a class of drugs has dominated the headlines. I'm talking about GLP-1 medications like Wagovi,

0:31.7

Zempec, Zepbound. You might be taking one. You might know somebody who is. In a new book, former FDA commissioner, Dr. David Kessler, aims to go beyond the headlines

0:42.2

to take a close look at the science on metabolism, weight loss, and how these new blockbuster

0:47.9

drugs actually work.

0:50.1

Dr. Kessler has a personal relationship with the subject.

0:52.6

He's taken a GLP1 medication himself. His book is called Diet, Drugs, and Dopamine, and Dr. Kessler has a personal relationship with the subject. He's taken a GLP1 medication himself.

0:55.4

His book is called Diet, Drugs, and Dopamine, the new science of achieving a healthy weight.

1:01.3

David, welcome back to Science Friday.

1:03.2

Thanks for having me.

1:04.5

You wrote an op-ed on these GLP-1 drugs for the New York Times, and there were 740 comments as of the time that I looked at it.

1:14.5

Why do you think this medication is a lightning rod? Well, I think there are an opportunity to

1:21.4

reverse for me this epidemic of chronic disease. They are not a panacea. They are one tool in a toolbox.

1:31.3

The one thing about these drugs that I think everybody can agree on is that they work through biology.

1:38.3

And that means this struggle that many of us have experienced throughout our lives, this struggle with weight,

1:48.1

is not willpower. That's what these drugs show. But all of a sudden, we have something

1:55.2

that we've never had before. We have a very powerful, highly effective drug that does something that we've not been able to achieve on our own.

2:05.5

You know, one thing that really struck me in your book was this section you had about why the weight always seems to come back.

2:14.4

And you talk about how when you lose weight, your body actually starts to burn fewer

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